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Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust, bamp bamp, another one bites the dust.

by ecommando 15y ago

va_coder 15y ago
Mr. Ellison, you're the MS of databases. Don't rejoice too much.
- arethuza 15y ago
  Much to my surprse, last time we had an Oracle sales team in they mentioned that Oracle is now in the business of NoSQL databases in additional to all the other database products they sell.
  - mhd 15y ago
    Isn't that basically Berkeley DB?
    - soldermont00 15y ago
      No, they make an actual NoSQL database now: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/nosqldb/overview/index.html http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/nosqldb/overview/...
      - mhd 15y ago
        From the data sheet: "Oracle NoSQL Database is built upon the proven Oracle Berkeley DB Java Edition high-availability storage engine". So it's BDBEE…
        slardat01 15y ago
        That is for the data store itself, and doesn't mean that the database is NoSQL or not. MemcacheDB for example is a NoSQL database that uses BerkeleyDB as a datastore. No different than you'd use InnoDB or RethinkDB with MySQL.
      - andrewflnr 15y ago
        Is it significantly different from Riak? They seem very, very similar based on my superficial knowledge.
    - william42 15y ago
      It blows my mind that something called Berkeley DB is owned by Oracle. You'd think it'd be a UC Berkeley project.
- ecommando 15y ago
  Awww.. you mad... I'm so sick of hearing about all these "new" technologies that are so revolutionary, but can't hold a candle to postgres and memcache. Despite what the brochures tell you, a "degree" from DeVry and 3 hours in a Ruby book doesn't make an architect, and this is one of several "revolutionary technologies", like Ruby, that won't scale and will wither and die.
  - edu 15y ago
    Exactly, how does a programming language scale or not-scale? Ruby might be slower and hungrier (memory) than other languages but it's the applications that might or might not-scale.
    - j45 15y ago
      Assuming you have the most efficient code possible, the efficiency and speed of the interpreter can still affect the ability to scale an app. Another thought is, the interpreter may or may not have scaling / clustering available, be it through a built-in functionality or an external queue or something. Sometimes we have to code around interpreter/speed issues. I work in the JVM languages sometimes. I have to do things differently directly in Java if a particular JVM language I use isn't cutting it. Same goes for ".NET", which is over 30 some languages.
  - tkrajcar 15y ago
    Go ahead and write your self-congratulatory blogpost when Ruby "withers and dies". If HN is still around in 40-50 years, I'm sure it'll hit the frontpage.

Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust, bamp bamp, another one bites the dust.

va_coder 15y ago

Mr. Ellison, you're the MS of databases. Don't rejoice too much.

arethuza 15y ago
Much to my surprse, last time we had an Oracle sales team in they mentioned that Oracle is now in the business of NoSQL databases in additional to all the other database products they sell.
- mhd 15y ago
  Isn't that basically Berkeley DB?
  - soldermont00 15y ago
    No, they make an actual NoSQL database now: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/nosqldb/overview/index.html http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/nosqldb/overview/...
    - mhd 15y ago
      From the data sheet: "Oracle NoSQL Database is built upon the proven Oracle Berkeley DB Java Edition high-availability storage engine". So it's BDBEE…
      - slardat01 15y ago
        That is for the data store itself, and doesn't mean that the database is NoSQL or not. MemcacheDB for example is a NoSQL database that uses BerkeleyDB as a datastore. No different than you'd use InnoDB or RethinkDB with MySQL.
    - andrewflnr 15y ago
      Is it significantly different from Riak? They seem very, very similar based on my superficial knowledge.
  - william42 15y ago
    It blows my mind that something called Berkeley DB is owned by Oracle. You'd think it'd be a UC Berkeley project.
ecommando 15y ago
Awww.. you mad... I'm so sick of hearing about all these "new" technologies that are so revolutionary, but can't hold a candle to postgres and memcache. Despite what the brochures tell you, a "degree" from DeVry and 3 hours in a Ruby book doesn't make an architect, and this is one of several "revolutionary technologies", like Ruby, that won't scale and will wither and die.
- edu 15y ago
  Exactly, how does a programming language scale or not-scale? Ruby might be slower and hungrier (memory) than other languages but it's the applications that might or might not-scale.
  - j45 15y ago
    Assuming you have the most efficient code possible, the efficiency and speed of the interpreter can still affect the ability to scale an app. Another thought is, the interpreter may or may not have scaling / clustering available, be it through a built-in functionality or an external queue or something. Sometimes we have to code around interpreter/speed issues. I work in the JVM languages sometimes. I have to do things differently directly in Java if a particular JVM language I use isn't cutting it. Same goes for ".NET", which is over 30 some languages.
- tkrajcar 15y ago
  Go ahead and write your self-congratulatory blogpost when Ruby "withers and dies". If HN is still around in 40-50 years, I'm sure it'll hit the frontpage.