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Mississippi water is so dirty residents shower with their mouths shut

39 points by al_mandi 4y ago

bojangleslover 4y ago
And yet it's GDP per Capita is higher than that of the UK
- postalrat 4y ago
  Does that suggest that wealth in Mississippi is extremely concentrated near the top?
  - rco8786 4y ago
    Yes. MS has the 4th worst balance of income/wealth in the US (which is already pretty unbalanced overall). MS has wealth distribution similar to that of Zimbabwe and Rep of Congo, measured by Gini coefficient.
- LionTamer 4y ago
  The US does, Mississippi doesn’t. Mississippi has a GDP per capital of about $42,411 [0] while UK has $47,334 [1]. Those are both in current USD. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP?wprov=sfti1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... [1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=GB https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?location...
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  - deepdriver 4y ago
    Those numbers are still remarkably similar.
    - rco8786 4y ago
      Yep. Then you look at wealth distribution and it all makes sense. Mississippi’s Gini coefficient is around .49, where the UK is around .34.
- UglyToad 4y ago
  To be fair the UK (or rather England) isn't exactly an examplar when it comes to water quality. https://news.sky.com/story/huge-increase-in-raw-sewage-released-into-uk-waterways-and-sea-data-reveals-12677730 https://news.sky.com/story/huge-increase-in-raw-sewage-relea...
- exabrial 4y ago
  The government in Mississippi collects Billions in tax revenue and wastes it... like every government.
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57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago
That's strange, I've lived here for 5+ years now, and I've never heard anyone my native spouse say anything of the sort, nor anyone else. More outrage for the outrage throne!
- sophacles 4y ago
  You missed this announcement then: “Please make sure in the shower that your mouth is not open,” Jim Craig, senior deputy and director of health protection at the Mississippi Department of Health... Specifically for Jackson, where they have been having serious water problems for a month. (This is not in the linked article, but in several others on the topic)
  - 57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago
    No, I did not miss that. If it's not in the linked article, the implication is that we all just know to shower with our mouth closed. 2.9 million people, vs 149k. It's hyperbole, without the details.
    - sophacles 4y ago
      By "miss" I wasn't implying you can't read or something, just that this national news item wasn't something you've seen yet. A common way to express that is "you missed it" or "i missed that". Let me rephrase my first sentence: You many not have seen this yet then... [snip some unnecessarily stuff in light of edit below]. edit: I just realized and maybe you also hadn't seen yet, the linked article is a summary of a video story. Additionally, the summary has been updated to include more information specifying Jackson and the title has been updated since I first looked, I suspect there is much more info now than when you first looked..
      - 57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago
        I didn't miss it. I read about it on the 30th of Aug, on this article https://www.wsj.com/articles/jackson-miss-is-out-of-running-water-after-treatment-plant-pumps-fail-11661869317 https://www.wsj.com/articles/jackson-miss-is-out-of-running-...? It wasn't the only one I've read, either. Are you not understanding that I live in Mississippi, and I resent the implication that an entire state just has filthy water, because of one city with an awfully young man at the helm?
Graziano_M 4y ago
I don’t know about you but I don’t normally shower with my mouth open…
xenospn 4y ago
The American south would be in 3rd world territory (in some regards it already is) if it wasn’t attached at the hip to california and new york.
- betwixthewires 4y ago
  "The south" is a big, diverse place. Some places definitely resemble the third world, west Virginia is a prominent example, although it's not part of the south proper. And cities like Memphis have some major problems that are commonly attributed to third world countries. America by and large is a diverse place. There are parts of non southern states with third world tier problems. Both states you mention have problems of that caliber. Most of the developed world resembles the third world once you leave the cities, some of it even in the cities. Its all just rural undeveloped land with thin little roads, most of which aren't in pristene condition.
  - sophacles 4y ago
    Oh well that means a broken water system is a good look for the capital of a state!
    - betwixthewires 4y ago
      On this site you're supposed to try to have substantiative discussion. Could you try?
  - xenospn 4y ago
    I have been to 60 countries all over the world. You are factually incorrect. Exactly what part of japan, Norway or Australia resembles the third world?
    - betwixthewires 4y ago
      I don't mean shitting in the streets. I mean that if you go to a town of 20 people, you're going to get one lane streets, potholes, people winning mayoral elections because their family voted, more pigs than people, lack of water treatment, etc. There are people in the far north of Norway that herd reindeer, live semi nomadically in yurts. This is not significantly different from how khazakh people live. Once you get rural, the distinction between first and third world becomes much much less evident.
rasz 4y ago
The special cherry on top was the news there is a tanker full of fresh water parked in front of governors mansion. Dont worry about it, its not for the governor, its totally "on standby to assist the bank with water needs". https://www.mississippifreepress.org/26900/fact-check-tanker-not-providing-water-to-gov-tate-reeves-jackson-residence https://www.mississippifreepress.org/26900/fact-check-tanker...

39 points by al_mandi 4y ago

bojangleslover 4y ago

And yet it's GDP per Capita is higher than that of the UK

postalrat 4y ago
Does that suggest that wealth in Mississippi is extremely concentrated near the top?
- rco8786 4y ago
  Yes. MS has the 4th worst balance of income/wealth in the US (which is already pretty unbalanced overall). MS has wealth distribution similar to that of Zimbabwe and Rep of Congo, measured by Gini coefficient.
LionTamer 4y ago
The US does, Mississippi doesn’t. Mississippi has a GDP per capital of about $42,411 [0] while UK has $47,334 [1]. Those are both in current USD. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP?wprov=sfti1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... [1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=GB https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?location...
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- deepdriver 4y ago
  Those numbers are still remarkably similar.
  - rco8786 4y ago
    Yep. Then you look at wealth distribution and it all makes sense. Mississippi’s Gini coefficient is around .49, where the UK is around .34.
UglyToad 4y ago
To be fair the UK (or rather England) isn't exactly an examplar when it comes to water quality. https://news.sky.com/story/huge-increase-in-raw-sewage-released-into-uk-waterways-and-sea-data-reveals-12677730 https://news.sky.com/story/huge-increase-in-raw-sewage-relea...
exabrial 4y ago
The government in Mississippi collects Billions in tax revenue and wastes it... like every government.
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57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago

That's strange, I've lived here for 5+ years now, and I've never heard anyone my native spouse say anything of the sort, nor anyone else. More outrage for the outrage throne!

sophacles 4y ago
You missed this announcement then: “Please make sure in the shower that your mouth is not open,” Jim Craig, senior deputy and director of health protection at the Mississippi Department of Health... Specifically for Jackson, where they have been having serious water problems for a month. (This is not in the linked article, but in several others on the topic)
- 57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago
  No, I did not miss that. If it's not in the linked article, the implication is that we all just know to shower with our mouth closed. 2.9 million people, vs 149k. It's hyperbole, without the details.
  - sophacles 4y ago
    By "miss" I wasn't implying you can't read or something, just that this national news item wasn't something you've seen yet. A common way to express that is "you missed it" or "i missed that". Let me rephrase my first sentence: You many not have seen this yet then... [snip some unnecessarily stuff in light of edit below]. edit: I just realized and maybe you also hadn't seen yet, the linked article is a summary of a video story. Additionally, the summary has been updated to include more information specifying Jackson and the title has been updated since I first looked, I suspect there is much more info now than when you first looked..
    - 57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago
      I didn't miss it. I read about it on the 30th of Aug, on this article https://www.wsj.com/articles/jackson-miss-is-out-of-running-water-after-treatment-plant-pumps-fail-11661869317 https://www.wsj.com/articles/jackson-miss-is-out-of-running-...? It wasn't the only one I've read, either. Are you not understanding that I live in Mississippi, and I resent the implication that an entire state just has filthy water, because of one city with an awfully young man at the helm?

Graziano_M 4y ago

I don’t know about you but I don’t normally shower with my mouth open…

xenospn 4y ago

The American south would be in 3rd world territory (in some regards it already is) if it wasn’t attached at the hip to california and new york.

betwixthewires 4y ago
"The south" is a big, diverse place. Some places definitely resemble the third world, west Virginia is a prominent example, although it's not part of the south proper. And cities like Memphis have some major problems that are commonly attributed to third world countries. America by and large is a diverse place. There are parts of non southern states with third world tier problems. Both states you mention have problems of that caliber. Most of the developed world resembles the third world once you leave the cities, some of it even in the cities. Its all just rural undeveloped land with thin little roads, most of which aren't in pristene condition.
- sophacles 4y ago
  Oh well that means a broken water system is a good look for the capital of a state!
  - betwixthewires 4y ago
    On this site you're supposed to try to have substantiative discussion. Could you try?
- xenospn 4y ago
  I have been to 60 countries all over the world. You are factually incorrect. Exactly what part of japan, Norway or Australia resembles the third world?
  - betwixthewires 4y ago
    I don't mean shitting in the streets. I mean that if you go to a town of 20 people, you're going to get one lane streets, potholes, people winning mayoral elections because their family voted, more pigs than people, lack of water treatment, etc. There are people in the far north of Norway that herd reindeer, live semi nomadically in yurts. This is not significantly different from how khazakh people live. Once you get rural, the distinction between first and third world becomes much much less evident.

rasz 4y ago

The special cherry on top was the news there is a tanker full of fresh water parked in front of governors mansion. Dont worry about it, its not for the governor, its totally "on standby to assist the bank with water needs". https://www.mississippifreepress.org/26900/fact-check-tanker-not-providing-water-to-gov-tate-reeves-jackson-residence https://www.mississippifreepress.org/26900/fact-check-tanker...