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I don't know why anyone would build anything that relies on a google offering these days. What are they going to discontinue next?

neodypsis 4y ago
That's why I prefer to invest time and effort on AWS. I know I won't have to rewrite everything from scratch whenever Google feels like abandoning their projects.
- dark-star 4y ago
  AWS has never discontinued one of their services? Not trolling, seriously asking (I don't use hyperscalers)
  - neodypsis 4y ago
    To the best of my knowledge, no. At least none of the AWS services I've used. They've deprecated support for some CAs and stuff, but that seems reasonable.
    - softveda 4y ago
      Not a full service but partial features like S3 Bittorrent support was removed.
  - WoahNoun 4y ago
    Not that I'm aware of. They'd be fully justified in shutting down simpleDB since it hasn't had a feature update in over a decade, but they still keep it running. New accounts can't sign up for it and it only exists in the oldest regions. They were going to retire old s3 path styles, but they changed their mind after customer feedback.
  - paleotrope 4y ago
    Ec2 classic networking is going away this month. But that's ancient technology at this point.
    - Macha 4y ago
      As in "the second AWS product launched", and has been deprecated since 2013, which is around the time GCP became more than just App Engine.
    - throwayyy479087 4y ago
      Migration paths and assistance have been repeatedly sent out though - you’d have to literally not care about the system to have this impact you.
    - mardifoufs 4y ago
      In fact the last ec2 classic instances are due to be retired... by today! Though I'd bet no one waited until the very last day to migrate :)
  - donavanm 4y ago
    There have been rare changes, like mandatory API version upgrades or some features being turned off. I do not recall anything being removed without a (better) replacement available beforehand, let alone entire simply services being turned off. See simpleDB as the canonical example of long term deprecation but continued availability. Disclosure: long time Principal at AWS. The above is my own observation and opinion
  - QuinnyPig 4y ago
    Yes: Amazon Sumerian.
  - elchief 4y ago
    There was an ML service before sagemaker that you can't start using anymore but I believe it still works for existing customers
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- JohnHaugeland 4y ago
  They just retired EC2-Classic, one of the largest services they ever had
  - psanford 4y ago
    EC2-Classic was not its own service. It was a specific configuration of EC2. They retired that configuration by providing a full migration path into a new system that could be configured to perfectly replicate the old system if you wanted it to. Having gone through that migration myself with a bunch of services a long time ago, this isn't really a good example of a thing that AWS has killed off.
- xs83 4y ago
  That's exactly what you will do - invest time, and energy, a lot of both because AWS is a victim of its own legacy. Everything is an after-thought, everything is messy and its genuinely painful to use on anything except some basic UI driven functionality. EC2 and S3 and some basic hosting stuff is fine but newer services such as AWS Glue, Athena etc are a horrendous mess for anything other than 101 type stuff.
0xbadcafebee 4y ago
Supposedly the funding for Google Cloud will go bye-bye if they don't beat Azure by 2023. They won't axe all of Google Cloud, but I bet they'll start killing services that don't make money. (Remember: Google is an advertising company; loss-leading cloud services don't help them sell ads)
- Teknoman117 4y ago
  Forgive my ignorance, but from a business perspective, is Google Docs, Drive, etc. considered part of Google Cloud or is GSuite distinctly different?
  - gregsadetsky 4y ago
    G Suite / Workspace is not typically considered part of Google Cloud Platform (GCP), which is Google's equivalent/competitor to AWS and Azure.
  - stingrae 4y ago
    They are pretty separate. It is like Azure (Google Cloud Platform) and Office365 (GSuite) for Microsoft.
  - _4BuuS_ 4y ago
    From a business perspective it is part of Google Cloud overall. Seems like leadership doesn't stay long though. https://9to5google.com/2022/06/29/google-workspace-javier-soltero/ https://9to5google.com/2022/06/29/google-workspace-javier-so... https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-tomb?trk=public_post_share-update_actor-text https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-tomb?trk=public_post_share-...
- senttoschool 4y ago
  >Supposedly the funding for Google Cloud will go bye-bye if they don't beat Azure by 2023. Source on this? Also, Amazon was just an eCommerce store before AWS.
  - gregsadetsky 4y ago

neodypsis 4y ago

That's why I prefer to invest time and effort on AWS. I know I won't have to rewrite everything from scratch whenever Google feels like abandoning their projects.

dark-star 4y ago
AWS has never discontinued one of their services? Not trolling, seriously asking (I don't use hyperscalers)
- neodypsis 4y ago
  To the best of my knowledge, no. At least none of the AWS services I've used. They've deprecated support for some CAs and stuff, but that seems reasonable.
  - softveda 4y ago
    Not a full service but partial features like S3 Bittorrent support was removed.
- WoahNoun 4y ago
  Not that I'm aware of. They'd be fully justified in shutting down simpleDB since it hasn't had a feature update in over a decade, but they still keep it running. New accounts can't sign up for it and it only exists in the oldest regions. They were going to retire old s3 path styles, but they changed their mind after customer feedback.
- paleotrope 4y ago
  Ec2 classic networking is going away this month. But that's ancient technology at this point.
  - Macha 4y ago
    As in "the second AWS product launched", and has been deprecated since 2013, which is around the time GCP became more than just App Engine.
  - throwayyy479087 4y ago
    Migration paths and assistance have been repeatedly sent out though - you’d have to literally not care about the system to have this impact you.
  - mardifoufs 4y ago
    In fact the last ec2 classic instances are due to be retired... by today! Though I'd bet no one waited until the very last day to migrate :)
- donavanm 4y ago
  There have been rare changes, like mandatory API version upgrades or some features being turned off. I do not recall anything being removed without a (better) replacement available beforehand, let alone entire simply services being turned off. See simpleDB as the canonical example of long term deprecation but continued availability. Disclosure: long time Principal at AWS. The above is my own observation and opinion
- QuinnyPig 4y ago
  Yes: Amazon Sumerian.
- elchief 4y ago
  There was an ML service before sagemaker that you can't start using anymore but I believe it still works for existing customers
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JohnHaugeland 4y ago
They just retired EC2-Classic, one of the largest services they ever had
- psanford 4y ago
  EC2-Classic was not its own service. It was a specific configuration of EC2. They retired that configuration by providing a full migration path into a new system that could be configured to perfectly replicate the old system if you wanted it to. Having gone through that migration myself with a bunch of services a long time ago, this isn't really a good example of a thing that AWS has killed off.
xs83 4y ago
That's exactly what you will do - invest time, and energy, a lot of both because AWS is a victim of its own legacy. Everything is an after-thought, everything is messy and its genuinely painful to use on anything except some basic UI driven functionality. EC2 and S3 and some basic hosting stuff is fine but newer services such as AWS Glue, Athena etc are a horrendous mess for anything other than 101 type stuff.

0xbadcafebee 4y ago

Supposedly the funding for Google Cloud will go bye-bye if they don't beat Azure by 2023. They won't axe all of Google Cloud, but I bet they'll start killing services that don't make money. (Remember: Google is an advertising company; loss-leading cloud services don't help them sell ads)

Teknoman117 4y ago
Forgive my ignorance, but from a business perspective, is Google Docs, Drive, etc. considered part of Google Cloud or is GSuite distinctly different?
- gregsadetsky 4y ago
  G Suite / Workspace is not typically considered part of Google Cloud Platform (GCP), which is Google's equivalent/competitor to AWS and Azure.
- stingrae 4y ago
  They are pretty separate. It is like Azure (Google Cloud Platform) and Office365 (GSuite) for Microsoft.
- _4BuuS_ 4y ago
  From a business perspective it is part of Google Cloud overall. Seems like leadership doesn't stay long though. https://9to5google.com/2022/06/29/google-workspace-javier-soltero/ https://9to5google.com/2022/06/29/google-workspace-javier-so... https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-tomb?trk=public_post_share-update_actor-text https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-tomb?trk=public_post_share-...
senttoschool 4y ago
>Supposedly the funding for Google Cloud will go bye-bye if they don't beat Azure by 2023. Source on this? Also, Amazon was just an eCommerce store before AWS.
- gregsadetsky 4y ago