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Fake IMDB credits
- nick9847 4y agoIs the Apu trilogy good for real?
- shmde 4y agoIf you wanna go by metrics, all movies in the trilogy are rated above 4.0 with more than 50,000 votes combined on letterboxd. Also they got beautiful remasters from criterion films.
- mrwh 4y agoIt's been many years since I last saw it, but I remember the first film in particular as being wonderful, yes. Hopeful and sad and luminously shot.
- js2 4y agohttps://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-the-apu-trilogy-1959 https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-the-apu-trilo...
- abruzzi 4y agoyes, but 'Distant Thunder' is my favorite from the same director.
- leephillips 4y agoIt’s a classic series of Bengali films, widely adored.
- AlbertCory 4y agoI'm very proud to say we did show that in the Google Cinema Club, and in fact we had a professor from UCSC who specializes in Ray films come and show it and answer questions. He knew Ray personally.
- bredren 4y ago> In a world where your online clout is everything… It’s a long arc, but I think we are bending away from this. It’s harder than ever to convincingly be a competitive content creator. Going from largely Insta photos -> tiktok forced non-linear video editing / performance on fast trend cycles.
- effingwewt 4y agoGamification. Also it's producer 101 to have everyone involved in the movie in any way to 10/10 the movie months before release. Movies start out at 10/10 or 8/10, day of release it will fall steadily to 3/10 or whatever.
- sharmin123 4y ago[dead]
- tyingq 4y agoI wonder how many people have successfully bootstrapped acting gigs this way. Perhaps not the guy in the example, as his various poorly written bios expose him. But surely there are people that are better at this game.
- cubancigar11 4y agoSeo is a fair play and I don't see why we are so quick to blame young people. It is Google that should be blamed for making themselves more important than they deserve to be.
- josephcsible 4y agoMaking up lies about yourself to make yourself look better than you really are is "fair play"?
- tresqotheq 4y agoYes, it is called "Marketing". And the world runs on it.
- worthless-trash 4y agoThere is a difference between marketing and lying yo. The fact that you can't tell the difference speaks volumes for your moral character.
- tresqotheq 4y ago>There is a difference between marketing and lying yo In a perfect world, there should be. But sadly we don't live in that world. > The fact that you can't tell the difference speaks volumes for your moral character. I seem to have hit a nerve there. Sorry if I ruined your day or something..
- Mo3 4y agoThis is not SEO, it’s fraud and deception.
- croes 4y agoReminds of this "Man fools security to backstage at a Peking Duk gig by changing the band's Wikipedia page to describe himself as a family member" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3345074/Man-fools-security-letting-stage-Peking-Duk-gig-editing-band-s-Wikipedia-page-make-look-like-family-mamber.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3345074/Man-fools-s...
- Tao3300 4y agoThe band handled it exactly the way you'd want them to.
- chrisseaton 4y agoIs ‘to backstage’ a verb?
- pigtailgirl 4y ago-- Well you're from Cheshire - and that's the DailyMail - so you tell us! =) --
- aaaaaaaaaaab 4y agosecurity to backstage = the security personnel protecting the entry to the backstage area
- wyldfire 4y agoYou should read this like "man fools { security-to-the-backstage }" not "man fools { security } in order to backstage ".
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- chevman 4y agoHappens everyday all day in BigCo land! You think those execs really did all those things they said they did?
- groffee 4y ago"Single-handedly managed the successful upgrade and deployment of new environmental illumination system with zero cost overruns and zero safety incidents."
- cromulent 4y agoLight-bulb changing embellishments, and also outright lying about their qualifications. https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/management/telstra-should-be-the-last-company-shamed-by-an-exec-with-fake-credentials-20160602-gpa48s https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/management/telstra-shou...
- Cupertino95014 4y agoWait. You're saying I can make myself an actor in a major motion picture? Hold my beer.
- bragr 4y agoThere's a reason wikipedia classifies IMDB as an unreliable source. Apparently Michael Madsen has a real problem with people adding him to films in production in an effort to get financing. https://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Michael-Madsen-Hates-IMDB-70936.html https://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Michael-Madsen-Hates-IMD...
- leephillips 4y agoThat’s hilarious. Wikipedia classifies IMDB as unreliable because...anyone can edit its pages.
- theamk 4y ago..without public edit history, active moderators and useful watch tools.
- judge2020 4y agoWikipedia allows anyone to audit edits and raise issues if things are fishy. IMDb allows edits but the history is only visible to admins.
- Eleison23 4y agoIMDb is crowdsourced and accepts user data submissions. https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/contribution-information/how-do-i-contribute-data-to-imdb/GVZTHQ48SWS47WDK# https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/contribution-info... External users are not part of it. It's a "curated" model. IMDb clearly stakes their reputation on accuracy and comprehensive coverage. IMDb's TOS ensures that you relinquish all copyright claims and grant them an exclusive license to your content. IMDb won't cite their sources nor attribute contributors. They own and control everything on the site. Their rates for abuse and misinformation are unpublished. IMDb is an opaque, black box. Wikipedia has a similar model for protecting articles known as "Pending Changes". Anyone can submit an edit to the article, but the revisions and new data is held back from the "front page" publication until approved by someone with the proper user rights. Almost anyone in good standing can obtain those rights, and it's 100% transparent. Every edit is reviewable by anyone with Internet access, every edit is attributed and licensed under CC-BY-SA. The servers, editors, and bots track and tag vandalism and other forms of abuse with public records. Verifiability is mandatory.
- nickphx 4y agoWhat do you get for doing that though?
- shmde 4y agoThe person doing it gets money and the person taking the service gets fake verified clout.(could lead to future gigs, shows)
- edent 4y ago"Don't you know who I am? Google me!" Works equally well in job interviews, dates, and getting in to clubs.
- drexlspivey 4y agoI just put “2006 Times Person of the Year” on my resume
- dav_Oz 4y agoI remember the imdb-ratings on movies from India were also absurdly high, I brushed it off as a cultural thing back then; but unfortunately [0] the rigging seems to be norm on imdb across the board (not limited to India). [0]https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/bollywood/story/the-kashmir-files-imdb-rating-changed-from-9-9-to-8-3-after-unusual-activity-vivek-agnihotri-calls-it-unethical-1925398-2022-03-15 https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/bollywood/story/the-kashmir...
- humaniania 4y agoAfter Amazon bought IMDB it became more about advertising for movies and less about being a database. Same thing as when Warner Bros and Universal Studios (via its parent Comcast) bought RottenTomatoes. Now everything brags about it's RT rating when it's coming from 2 movie studios...
- cobbaut 4y ago> After Amazon bought IMDB it became more about advertising for movies and less about being a database. Yes, but several years later, since Amazon bought IMDB back in 1998!
- 411111111111111 4y agoRT at least still has viewer ratings. You predictably can't sort by them but it's at least an indicator if the reviewer and viewer score are on completely different heights. And you've got trakt.tv now too, not sure if anyone owns that
- tyingq 4y ago>less about being a database I do really like the "X-ray" feature in Amazon Prime, which I assume is partially powered by IMDB. I miss it when using other services like HBOMax, Netflix, etc.
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- UIUC_06 4y agoPoor boys from India game a system that was set up by Rich Tech Bros in Silicon Valley to fund their "family foundations" and 20-room houses in Atherton? I don't call it Outrage; I call it "Slumdog Millionaire: Part II"
- RC_ITR 4y agoIMDb was founded in Cardiff England.
- helsinkiandrew 4y agoThere’s a thousand Welshman looking for your blood now. Cardiff is in Wales. Initially was called the Cardiff Internet Movie Database (it was hosted at the university of Cardiff)
- RC_ITR 4y agoI mean hot take, but the whole “United Kingdom” concept is sort of pointless. Either confirm to international norms, or accept that no one outside your borders cares. There’s a reason why the only major organization that respects the distinction is the governing body of the national sport.
- UIUC_06 4y agoNot being from the UK: It's not really pointless. Scotland is way different from England, and I haven't been to Wales but I think that is, too. As for Northern Ireland: I don't even need to cover that one.
- mkl95 4y agoIMDB created a Top Rated Indian Movies section to mitigate spam [1]. However some obscure Indian movies make it every now and then into the regular Top 250 list. [1] https://www.imdb.com/india/top-rated-indian-movies/ https://www.imdb.com/india/top-rated-indian-movies/
- jwilk 4y ago> the edits are not reviewed effectively either But when I tried to fix typo in the cast list of a movie, my submission was rejected: > Your contribution has been declined. We have been unable to verify your contribution. Unfortunately we were unable to accept your submission as we were unable to verify the information provided.
- wyrm 4y agoWell, that wasn't very effective, was it?
- usremane 4y agoMan creates internet. Internet helps man. Man creates spam. Spam destroys internet. Spam destroys man. Spam rules the world.
- miyuru 4y agoThe fake musician thing mentioned in the article is also used to get verified accounts in Twitter, Facebook and Instagram as well.
- personjerry 4y agoAnyone know how to replicate this to get a knowledge panel for startup-building clout? Asking for a friend
- Dma54rhs 4y agoPay workers of tech magazines to write about the company just like these randons guys. Start with the cheapest bribes and move up to techcrunch etc - there's little morality in that sector so you're not the first to come to with it.
- james-redwood 4y agoThis is actually where I first saw this phenomenon. These men in the article weren't the first to try this concept.
- goldcd 4y agoI think Subhankar has a good future ahead of him writing copy and press releases for startups.
- joostshao 4y agoit harmful for indian film growth, evently. it is also happen in china, with real account to post a high score to bad movie, somebody can get money from this event. create fake data by fake account or sub account, someone even have no watch the movie in theater, just post low score, it make people angry
- technothrasher 4y agoI looked my own name up on IMDB and found that I had starred in a soft-core gay porn movie. I was intrigued, but somewhat disappointed that I didn't remember any of it. Also disappointed that it seems to have been the start and end of my illustrious film career.
- hackernewds 4y agoThere could be others with the same name as you?
- technothrasher 4y agoBy Jove, Watson, I think you've cracked the case!
- SixDouble5321 4y agoI believe the correct question is: "what is the name of the film?" I'd expect you of all people would be interested in hacker nudes.
- xaxaxb 4y agoI stopped IMDBing long ago and switched to Metacritic, which is what I currently trust for anything entertainment-related.
- russfink 4y agoMore likely is that this guy used a service. Or, he could start a service. Or he is the service, and this profile is his calling card.
- entropie 4y agoMaybe part of a scam, like Geo Slam who pretends to be a top notch Hollywood producer which lots of connections to get money (and vacations, and...) Strg+f, german investigative journalists, made a nice story about that case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KV8i2Q1TXU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KV8i2Q1TXU (german, should have english subtiltes)
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- gameshot911 4y agoThat's an intriguing idea... I'd be interested if you care to expand upon it!
- nslzk 4y agoWell that’s the gist of it… make it so easterns can’t access western websites and other internet services and vice versa.
- jimnotgym 4y agoWhat outcome did you have in mind?
- Torifyme12 4y ago
- palimpsests 4y agowhere do you draw the geographic lines between east and west?
- anshumankmr 4y agoRacism with extra steps, eh?
- radiojasper 4y ago"Besides being an Actor, he tried his luck in acting and singing." I thought I was cross-eyed for a second, but it really says exactly that. [0] [0] reupload as substack URLS are daunting to say the least: https://jasper.monster/sharex/Ygg0w8VuhP.jpg https://jasper.monster/sharex/Ygg0w8VuhP.jpg
- Havoc 4y agoGuessing it’s a common Indian speech pattern that gets lost in translation cause I’ve heard similar at the office
- richbell 4y agoLikewise. Another common expression that may seem strange is referring to questions as "doubts". e.g. "I have a doubt about installing Java"
- heavenlyblue 4y ago“I am doubting installing Java” “I have doubts about Java” is valid English though
- gavinray 4y agoThe way "I have a doubt" as an Indianism is used more accurately translates to "I don't believe I fully understand/there are things that are unclear to me about <thing>" At first I thought it was a simple grammatical thing, but I started seeing it so often that I looked it up.
- PebblesRox 4y agoI’m guessing it’s a failure of the author to proofread. The guy’s issuewire bio has a similar sentence without the repetition: “Besides being a successful YouTuber, he tried his luck in singing and music.” Seems like whoever wrote these blurbs is working from a template.
- squarefoot 4y agoIMDB lost all my respect many years ago when they made clear with their actions that they support fake reviews. When the problem started to grow beyond the occasional vandalism, they still had a very effective discussion section in which users soon began to expose fake reviews. Their response? Of course remove the discussion section! IMDB today has some use for their database only; but they lost any credibility on everything else.
- MichaelCollins 4y agoComment sections on many websites across the net got scrapped around the same time. Ostensibly because some people use them to say nasty things, but really I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than creating. The corporations prefer that creation of content and narratives be restricted to an elite few, while the masses dutifully consume. At the end of the day it's about protecting their bottom line.
- dvt 4y ago> I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than creating. Not really sure I see this. Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, etc. base their entire business model on the masses creating content. Sure there's a Pareto distribution when it comes to creators vs consumers, but the platforms certainly make money from (and encourage) both.
- misnome 4y agoRight, it seems much more likely that if it isn’t your primary business model, it’s just not worth the hassle?
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- rapind 4y ago> I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than creating. No, it’s about moderation cost and preventing discussions that can hurt their brand or partners or customers. Also SEO spam whackamole.
- 7speter 4y agoI remember imdb being meticulous in its record keeping ~15 years ago/before it got bought by Amazon (though its quality held up for at least a few years after). I remember looking up details for kinda obscure movies and talent, and my mind being blown when info for either was listed. Now, it takes years to see the filmography of a given actor from a streaming show.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago> ~15 years ago/before it got bought by Amazon They were bought by Amazon 24 years ago now, in 1998.
- 7speter 4y agoGuess thats the Mandela Effect in action :). It was a lot better for a time until maybe 2010 and went downhill.
- politelemon 4y agoSide note, I'd really appreciate if you could close off your opening (. I don't know where to stop reading with a lower volume in my head.
- whutsurnaym 4y agoNow you've added another one!!
- TedShiller 4y agoYou can see the same effect on Quora
- waspight 4y agoI have always wondered about the ratings. It seems to me that all movies below 6 is trash. Has this always been this way? One would imagine that a 5 star rating would be ok since it is right between 0 (bad) and 10 (great). I guess some kind of inflation in the ratings is going on, but how is such things prevented in these kinds of ratings over time? Is it even possible to prevent?
- ScottEvtuch 4y agoI think the false assumption you are making is that the "average" movie is good. There are a lot of trash movies out there.
- dhosek 4y agoI tend to view 1–10 ratings differently than 1–5. 1–5 is more like (American) letter grades where 3 stars equals a C and is average. On a 1–10 rating, it’s more like percentages so 9–10 is an A, 8–9 a B, 7–8 a C, 6–7 a D and less than 6 an F. I’ve seen elsewhere that at least one aggregator does similar to convert between 1–10 scales and 5-star scales so I think that this is a common unspoken assumption of the relation between the two scales.
- duckmysick 4y agoL'equipe, a French sports newspaper, sticks to the traditional interpretation of the 1-10 scale when rating players' performances. In football (soccer), they rate all players on both teams who played enough minutes, so there's at least 22 ratings per match - 5/10 being average and 10/10 being truly exceptional. Since the late 80s they have given only a dozen or so perfect 10/10 ratings. Almost half of them was given in the past five years, so I guess inflation creeps up everywhere.
- zaik 4y agoMaybe today's football players are simply performing better than players from the 80s?
- wenbin 4y agoThis kind of happens in the podcast world as well. Many people/companies create fake podcasts and submit to all podcast directories / apps. The main purpose is to do blackhat SEO - links in the rss feed will be syndicated to podcast directory sites / apps. In fact, any "directory of something" sites will be gamed if user created contents are allowed, e.g., directory of movies / podcasts / local businesses / books...
- squeebie23 4y agoI find it interesting that nowhere in the article did the author write the name of the actor / musician he's referring to, it's only highlighted in pictures. Maybe trying not to add to this guy's SEO?
- xwdv 4y agoWill a knowledge panel on google help you get verified on various social networks? Or does anyone here have connection$ for getting verified on social networks?
- HelipadSweeper 4y agoThere is a profile for a person named Giuseppe Macario on IMDB. The profile claims he was a writer for a commercial involving Julia Roberts. It's a lie. He created the profile prior to running for office in Italy under the political party "Free Flights to Italy" in 2018. A reporter for Rolling Stone (Italy) dug into the claim. She discovered it was fake along with many of his other claims. The guy has a long, long history of making questionable claims about himself online. Here is the profile: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6868326/ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6868326/
- benknight87 4y agoOnline fraud is rampant across major platforms. Companies lack the resources and immediate financial incentives to combat it. Google Maps is another good example. I live in Vietnam and businesses stealing another business' unclaimed listings is common practice, or claiming the listing for a public landmark and using it to advertise their tour company for example. Then there's fake reviews... These platforms simply can't combat fraud at scale, undermining trust.
- exodust 4y agoGoogle Maps is a mess of business icons and junk which I notice is now mandated on Street View - icons can't be hidden anymore without resorting to custom scripts like ad blockers. Google Search tries too hard to present "facts". Take this top result snippet which messes up the difference between speedometer and odometer: https://www.google.com/search?q=speedometer+or+odometer https://www.google.com/search?q=speedometer+or+odometer Google is using and presenting data from the top website in an attempt to "know" the functional difference between speedometer and odometer. Google pretends to be smart. I'm not surprised people are finding it easy to manipulate "knowledge" panels.
- 6510 4y ago< Some of them are genuine content creators with a lot of followers on Instagram and Youtube. Oh really? Ill take your word for it.
- underlines 4y agoI'm a Swiss working in Bangkok (I'm fluent in Thai). So I'm quite a bit acustomed to people cheating in many situations of life. When we started hiring a couple of Indian coworkers for management level as well as data science roles, I became close friends to the whole group. Whenever we discussed frauds like that, I always said that we shouldn't think people (or Indians in particular) wanna game the systems and not everyone would act in malicious self beneficial ways, tricking systems like that. But: Whenever I held this position in our discussions, my indian friends smiled at me. They were the ones saying that you usually can't trust a bunch of people to follow rules there. That most would simply game the system for their own benefit. I tried arguing that this is probably the same for all human beings, if they just have the chance and live in a system where there are no (or little) consequences of doing this. They kept arguing that it's part of the indian mindset to just game systems like that, from state schemes, to work to anything. It's shocking how one nation can see themselves in such a negative way. I still believe though that Swiss or Indians or whatever nation doesn't matter. Humans will game systems if the circumstances are right.
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- thelittleone 4y agoAt business school one of my living group was an exec at a prominent indian Telco. He described how, when the quarterly revenue was short, they would enable paid features on random customer accounts (at huge scale). This predates smart phones and only a small fraction noticed, complained and got a refund. He mentioned it casually and was a surprised we collectively recommended he quit that company, change that practice, or quit telling people.
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- nindalf 4y agoFlagged for racism. You can’t justify it by saying “oh it’s well known”. If we listed all the other “well known” facts about other races, things would get abominably racist real quick.
- system2 4y agoWhen I discuss these type of things or phone scams with my Americanized Indian friends, their response is always the same and scary: "They don't think they are scamming, they think Americans are rich and they just get their share. Otherwise they will suffer and find no food to eat."
- ck2 4y agoBTW since India makes a great many of medications and supplements for the USA and the world, and those factories are never inspected or products tested, do you think this "cheating" / "hacking" attitude doesn't spill over into each and every industry? Webpage is one thing, how about things you consume?
- quantumduck 4y agoWhat is the basis of your statement that the factories are never inspected or the products are tested? I interned at a pharmaceutical company's factory in India for the summer that used to regularly export medications to it's subsidiaries in the western world including United States. The standards are super high, we literally threw away millions of medications due to small uncertainty in a Quality control check. Besides the local regulations and inspections, a team from FDA regularly visited the factory to audit it for like 10-15 days. Just for one factory. I distinctly remember this as we had a more americanized menu for lunch when the team visited LMAO. So yeah, when you don't know or are not sure, please don't make statements like "factories are never inspected". It makes it seem like you know something, which you clearly don't.
- ck2 4y agoThere is clear documentation that the FDA rarely/never inspects overseas factories. Sometimes once when they are opened and never again. There's just no funding because that's how our political forces fight, they defund things. https://www.npr.org/transcripts/723545864 https://www.npr.org/transcripts/723545864
- Agentlien 4y agoWhile working on Lost in Random someone went to the iMDB page ( https://imdb.com/title/tt12545922 https://imdb.com/title/tt12545922 ) and realised the cast listing was entirely wrong. No impostors, but a bunch of us in the wrong roles. Most humorously I, our graphics programmer, was credited as all kinds of things, including director, animation director, and production coordinator. We had a laugh about it, then someone fixed it. To this day we don't know how it happened.
- RektBoy 4y agoThat guy is a living meme.
- butterNaN 4y agoA bit of a tangent but the unemployment crisis in India has reached unprecedented levels. Expect a lot more of "hustle" coming from young enterprising Indians who have no other avenues to earn.
- dom9301k 4y agofake it till you make it
- icelancer 4y agoThis is super common amongst tons of fakers. I am sure the Indian niche is just one subsection. I have run into a ton of fake white Americans doing just this to pump up their cred count.
- exadeci 4y agoHahaha the guy has found and commented on the article
- endeepak 4y agoLooks like multiple guys are claiming to be that fake guy. It’s hilarious!
- jakobgreenfeld 4y agoWhat exactly are these guys getting out of it?
- ninju 4y agoThe comments at the end of the article are funny https://peabee.substack.com/p/16-the-case-of-fake-imdb-credits/comment/8238009 https://peabee.substack.com/p/16-the-case-of-fake-imdb-credi... (apparently commenting has been turned off :-))