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Why? It's the successor to h264. The link in the OP is a hardware entitlement, since GPUs/CPUs now have h265 hardware encoder/decoders, so you already legally p

by riolu 4y ago

Why? It's the successor to h264. The link in the OP is a hardware entitlement, since GPUs/CPUs now have h265 hardware encoder/decoders, so you already legally purchased rights when you bought a compatible device. I prefer having a newer codec with superior quality/size. The only reason you wouldn't use HEVC is if your hardware lacks support, the $0.99 version is for the ability to use the codec in software. It's illegal to use it without licensing, but like most things, hard to enforce. Mostly for company compliance.

TingPing 4y ago
It's just anti-user. Use the AV1 codec, some hardware supports it.
preisschild 4y ago
AV1 is an open standard and and can also be included in open source software. It has the same capabilities as HEVC, but without the patent bs. AV1 decoders/encoders are also already being included by hardware, like in the new Intel ARC cards.
- brokenmachine 4y ago
  A slightly on-topic question... I have an AMD GPU that supposedly supports AV1 decoding but wouldn't work in VLC which I usually use. I googled and apparently VLC doesn't support AV1 hardware decoding. Anyone know how I can play AV1 using hardware decoding?
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    Firefox and Chrome will use hardware AV1 decoding on Windows when it's available.
  - belltaco 4y ago
    I used the Movies and Tv app on Windows 11 on a Nvidia GPU supporting AV1 decoding and it played it without any issues.
- viktorcode 4y ago
  HEVC has been supported by mobile phone hardware for years now, both encoding and decoding. And the difference with AV1 is negligible.
  - brokenmachine 4y ago
    Newer phones support AV1 decoding at least. Personally I'd much rather use an open standard, and the fact it's better than HEVC doesn't hurt either.
    - fomine3 4y ago
      Qualcomm chips still don't support. This is a serious blocker. Side note: Qualcomm is one of the patent holder of HEVC
      - clouddrover 4y ago
        But now coming soon in new Qualcomm chips: https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/entertainment/av1-open-video-codec https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/entertainment/av1-open-...
clouddrover 4y ago
> The only reason you wouldn't use HEVC is if your hardware lacks support No, the main problem with HEVC is that it is not licensed under royalty-free terms. In contrast, almost all commonly used internet formats and protocols are licensed under royalty-free terms so everyone is free to use and implement them without paying a licensing fee. Video has been an anomaly. Imagine if HTML wasn't licensed under royalty-free terms. Or TCP/IP or HTTP or SMTP or any other internet format or protocol that you (probably) use every day. There's no reason why video needs to be a special case here. Fortunately, video formats like AV1 (https://aomedia.org/ https://aomedia.org/) and audio formats like Opus (https://opus-codec.org/ https://opus-codec.org/) exist for high quality, royalty-free video and audio coding. These formats are deployed in the real world right now. YouTube, for example, makes extensive use of both. If you have a browser which supports AV1 (Firefox, Chrome, Edge, but not Safari yet), you can see if a YouTube video is playing back in AV1 by right-clicking on the video and selecting "Stats for Nerds".

by riolu 4y ago

TingPing 4y ago

It's just anti-user. Use the AV1 codec, some hardware supports it.

preisschild 4y ago

AV1 is an open standard and and can also be included in open source software. It has the same capabilities as HEVC, but without the patent bs. AV1 decoders/encoders are also already being included by hardware, like in the new Intel ARC cards.

brokenmachine 4y ago
A slightly on-topic question... I have an AMD GPU that supposedly supports AV1 decoding but wouldn't work in VLC which I usually use. I googled and apparently VLC doesn't support AV1 hardware decoding. Anyone know how I can play AV1 using hardware decoding?
- clouddrover 4y ago
  Firefox and Chrome will use hardware AV1 decoding on Windows when it's available.
- belltaco 4y ago
  I used the Movies and Tv app on Windows 11 on a Nvidia GPU supporting AV1 decoding and it played it without any issues.
viktorcode 4y ago
HEVC has been supported by mobile phone hardware for years now, both encoding and decoding. And the difference with AV1 is negligible.
- brokenmachine 4y ago
  Newer phones support AV1 decoding at least. Personally I'd much rather use an open standard, and the fact it's better than HEVC doesn't hurt either.
  - fomine3 4y ago
    Qualcomm chips still don't support. This is a serious blocker. Side note: Qualcomm is one of the patent holder of HEVC
    - clouddrover 4y ago
      But now coming soon in new Qualcomm chips: https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/entertainment/av1-open-video-codec https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/entertainment/av1-open-...

clouddrover 4y ago

> The only reason you wouldn't use HEVC is if your hardware lacks support No, the main problem with HEVC is that it is not licensed under royalty-free terms. In contrast, almost all commonly used internet formats and protocols are licensed under royalty-free terms so everyone is free to use and implement them without paying a licensing fee. Video has been an anomaly. Imagine if HTML wasn't licensed under royalty-free terms. Or TCP/IP or HTTP or SMTP or any other internet format or protocol that you (probably) use every day. There's no reason why video needs to be a special case here. Fortunately, video formats like AV1 (https://aomedia.org/ https://aomedia.org/) and audio formats like Opus (https://opus-codec.org/ https://opus-codec.org/) exist for high quality, royalty-free video and audio coding. These formats are deployed in the real world right now. YouTube, for example, makes extensive use of both. If you have a browser which supports AV1 (Firefox, Chrome, Edge, but not Safari yet), you can see if a YouTube video is playing back in AV1 by right-clicking on the video and selecting "Stats for Nerds".