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That’s great for you, but it’s quite common for vegans to suffer from b12 deficiency. And that’s just a commonly tested one but meat also contains iron, taurine

That’s great for you, but it’s quite common for vegans to suffer from b12 deficiency. And that’s just a commonly tested one but meat also contains iron, taurine, creatine, and a lot more that is hard to get from non meat sources. Personally I went low meat (not even close to vegan) and suffered. My b12 was low normal, yet I definitely felt the effects.

drooby 4y ago
Just want to add that I eat mostly vegetarian/vegan and bouldering at v4 level. Also very easily gaining muscle and not thinking too much about my diet. Just paid for every possible blood test that my doctor could provide and everything was in healthy ranges. Truth is… taking a b12 vitamin a few times per week and having some vegan protein shakes a few times per week is super easy. Truth is… there a lot of vegans that just don’t have super basic knowledge about the diet. But it’s actually super easy to figure it out if you put in maybe 1-2 days of research. Also, something like one third of all Americans have low-normal b12 levels. A lot more people should be supplementing in general.
- therealdrag0 4y ago
  What vegan shake you have?
  - drooby 4y ago
    Currently using Orgain Peanut Butter and Vega Chocolate. The Vega one has some extra minerals and vitamins which is nice. Both are super delicious. Tip... add a splash of vegan creamer to the shake before mixing. I like to add Trader Joe's brown sugar oat creamer and it makes it heavenly.
    - therealdrag0 4y ago
      Cool. Gotchya. I’m not vegan but I drink Huel vanilla for breakfast which is vegan.
- Maursault 4y ago
  > But it’s actually super easy to figure it out if you put in maybe 1-2 days of research. Vegans always say this. It is not true, or it is only half true, because you may gain the knowledge but very often still not have any options. I am vegetarian (cheese is my protein source because though I love the bean, it is a bitch to prepare). I am terrible at vegetarianism, but it isn't my fault. Nearly everything available has some animal byproduct in it, and nearly everything available is also not all that healthy, filled with sugar and salt. It takes something like a detective's mind and drive to sift through a grocery store and find things that are actually good for you unless you prepare every meal from its most basic constituents. On the road? Good luck finding vegan or vegetarian meals. I honestly find it offensive that everything everywhere is based on the meat eater's diet with either one single or no decent alternative menu item, which is just as likely to be mac and cheese. It is terribly annoying and difficult to eat healthy and vegetarian, let alone vegan, especially in the South and in the sticks. It takes virtuous dedication and extreme vigilance, while carnivores need take no effort whatsoever. I don't understand why there isn't a vegan/vegetarian national chain restaurant, and one without bazaar menu items no one's ever heard of. Veggie fast food is a great idea, would draw crowds, but it simply does not exist. Why isn't half the frozen section filled with vegetarian and healthy TV dinners? Why isn't the free market pouncing on providing healthy, simply healthy, food? Basic, square, vegetarian food is all I am after, and not finding it means I am pretty much starving myself and settling for meals that really aren't all that nutritious.
  - poulsbohemian 4y ago
    >It is terribly annoying and difficult to eat healthy and vegetarian, let alone vegan, especially in the South and in the sticks. One of the things I find frustrating about so many vegetarian / vegan products on the market and/or recipes is the way they substitute in a chemical shitstorm. As in, too often it feels like I'm taking out meat (which I'd call a "known" product - I know what it is and I buy it from ranchers I know) and the substitute is some kind of heavily processed vegetable or grain concoction. It leaves me wondering about the proposed health and environmental benefits.
  - JeremyNT 4y ago
    I feel this frustration. I also live in the south and sometimes even the salads all have meat at restaurants. What's funny is that there's also a fad of vegan restaurants that serve extremely fatty, highly processed "vegan junk food" for lack of a better description. They are greasy and lacking in protein. This should be really simple. Minimally processed vegetables with tofu, tempeh, seitan, or lentils. But no restaurant here does it.

drooby 4y ago

Just want to add that I eat mostly vegetarian/vegan and bouldering at v4 level. Also very easily gaining muscle and not thinking too much about my diet. Just paid for every possible blood test that my doctor could provide and everything was in healthy ranges. Truth is… taking a b12 vitamin a few times per week and having some vegan protein shakes a few times per week is super easy. Truth is… there a lot of vegans that just don’t have super basic knowledge about the diet. But it’s actually super easy to figure it out if you put in maybe 1-2 days of research. Also, something like one third of all Americans have low-normal b12 levels. A lot more people should be supplementing in general.

therealdrag0 4y ago
What vegan shake you have?
- drooby 4y ago
  Currently using Orgain Peanut Butter and Vega Chocolate. The Vega one has some extra minerals and vitamins which is nice. Both are super delicious. Tip... add a splash of vegan creamer to the shake before mixing. I like to add Trader Joe's brown sugar oat creamer and it makes it heavenly.
  - therealdrag0 4y ago
    Cool. Gotchya. I’m not vegan but I drink Huel vanilla for breakfast which is vegan.
Maursault 4y ago
> But it’s actually super easy to figure it out if you put in maybe 1-2 days of research. Vegans always say this. It is not true, or it is only half true, because you may gain the knowledge but very often still not have any options. I am vegetarian (cheese is my protein source because though I love the bean, it is a bitch to prepare). I am terrible at vegetarianism, but it isn't my fault. Nearly everything available has some animal byproduct in it, and nearly everything available is also not all that healthy, filled with sugar and salt. It takes something like a detective's mind and drive to sift through a grocery store and find things that are actually good for you unless you prepare every meal from its most basic constituents. On the road? Good luck finding vegan or vegetarian meals. I honestly find it offensive that everything everywhere is based on the meat eater's diet with either one single or no decent alternative menu item, which is just as likely to be mac and cheese. It is terribly annoying and difficult to eat healthy and vegetarian, let alone vegan, especially in the South and in the sticks. It takes virtuous dedication and extreme vigilance, while carnivores need take no effort whatsoever. I don't understand why there isn't a vegan/vegetarian national chain restaurant, and one without bazaar menu items no one's ever heard of. Veggie fast food is a great idea, would draw crowds, but it simply does not exist. Why isn't half the frozen section filled with vegetarian and healthy TV dinners? Why isn't the free market pouncing on providing healthy, simply healthy, food? Basic, square, vegetarian food is all I am after, and not finding it means I am pretty much starving myself and settling for meals that really aren't all that nutritious.
- poulsbohemian 4y ago
  >It is terribly annoying and difficult to eat healthy and vegetarian, let alone vegan, especially in the South and in the sticks. One of the things I find frustrating about so many vegetarian / vegan products on the market and/or recipes is the way they substitute in a chemical shitstorm. As in, too often it feels like I'm taking out meat (which I'd call a "known" product - I know what it is and I buy it from ranchers I know) and the substitute is some kind of heavily processed vegetable or grain concoction. It leaves me wondering about the proposed health and environmental benefits.
- JeremyNT 4y ago
  I feel this frustration. I also live in the south and sometimes even the salads all have meat at restaurants. What's funny is that there's also a fad of vegan restaurants that serve extremely fatty, highly processed "vegan junk food" for lack of a better description. They are greasy and lacking in protein. This should be really simple. Minimally processed vegetables with tofu, tempeh, seitan, or lentils. But no restaurant here does it.