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Colorado's where the river's headwaters are: this is probably an even bigger deal for those in Utah, Arizona, Las Vegas, and Southeastern California.
by goo 4y ago
Colorado's where the river's headwaters are: this is probably an even bigger deal for those in Utah, Arizona, Las Vegas, and Southeastern California.
- cmurf 4y agoThat is somewhat true, but also in Colorado there's a plethora of westslope vs front range issues.
- xyzwave 4y agoDon’t forget Mexico who’s allocated 1.5 million acre-feet per year (59 cubic metres per second) by the Colorado River Compact [1]. Which I believe was drafted during the wettest decade in the Southwest’s history. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Compact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Compact
- collegeburner 4y agotime to cut mexicos water before anything else then. not like they can fight us on it.
- jacquesm 4y agoYes, because who gives a fuck about treaties. After all, when your neighbor can't fight you it's a-ok to take their stuff. /s
- collegeburner 4y agobetter they have problems then we do
- arbitrary_name 4y agoNo it's not. What do you think is going to happen to the migration or border once agriculture and clean water supplies evaporate down there? Do the right thing, fulfill the obligations. The consequences suck for everyone.
- collegeburner 4y agowhy should we fulfil our obligations to the mexicans before the arizonans? we should keep our obligations to our own country first. we literally cant fulfill all the obligations so some has to go. im not saying "screw mexico" but its a governments job to care for its own people at least before others.
- OccamsMirror 4y ago"Fuck you, got mine"
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- pvaldes 4y agoSounds fair, as long as arizonians would stop culturing the crops painfully developped during thousands of years and generously shared with them by Mexicans (Tomatoes, pepper, corn), or Peruvians (Potatoes), or Argentinians and Bolivians (Peanuts), or Europeans (Onions, Lattice, Cabbage), or Africans (cup of coffee?), or Asians (return also the red jungle chicken please, and the apple native from Kazakhstan). They can still culture the arizonian jackalope thistle and the sellfish redneck's muddy sweetgrass, and all the other members in the long list of wonderful crops developed there, of course.
- djohnston 4y agoThat's a non sequitur if I've ever read one.
- pvaldes 4y agoThe fact is that the entire planet worked really hard so places like this can have an agriculture. Lets face it, Arizona didn't provided a lot in return to the science of agriculture. And now some people is saying lets keep all the water, so people down the river don't have/don't deserve any? A little understanding and maybe even gratitude would be a nice touch.
- dragonwriter 4y agoDo you want a massive wave of unauthorized immigration? Because that's how you get a massive wave of unauthorized immigration.
- polartx 4y agoUhh, thing is, that’s been going on for the better part of two years now
- Ekaros 4y agoAnd this is why we need nuclear proliferation.
- SilasX 4y agoWait, Mexico’s share is (as seems from both your comment and the link) specified in absolute terms rather than as a percentage like the US states? Leaving no allowance for that amount not existing? More specific link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Compact#Provisions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Compact#Provisi...
- arbitrary_name 4y agoI believe that the water to be supplied to Mexico via the river was of such poor quality that we ended up either trucking or directly purifying a set volume of water downstream to meet our treaty obligations.
- xyzwave 4y agoMinute 319 [1] determines how water allocations will change during conditions of drought or surplus. This is also covered a little at the end of the Wikipedia article. In a max drought scenario (Lake Mead surface elevation <1,025 feet) it looks like delivery requirements would be reduced by 125,000 acre-feet, with different delivery thresholds above that range. 1. https://www.ibwc.gov/Files/Minutes/Min319_Env_Fact_Sheet.pdf https://www.ibwc.gov/Files/Minutes/Min319_Env_Fact_Sheet.pdf
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