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Similar thing would happen in my Toyota, the song 'Afraid' by Yellowcard would play every time I turned on the car. Realized it was playing the first song in my

by jefe_ 4y ago

Similar thing would happen in my Toyota, the song 'Afraid' by Yellowcard would play every time I turned on the car. Realized it was playing the first song in my library. In Apple Music there is a song called 'A a a a a Very Good Song (Silent Track)' by artist Samir Mezrahi, that contains 10 minutes of silence. I added that to my library and now that song plays when I turn on my car (although this autoplay only happens occasionally since some Toyota update). The album art simply says: 'have a wonderful day.' The song: https://music.apple.com/us/album/a-a-a-a-a-very-good-song-silent-track-single/1268932999 https://music.apple.com/us/album/a-a-a-a-a-very-good-song-si...

jtbayly 4y ago
I created a one-hour long silent MP3 and named it similarly and added it to my phone. I've sent it to a friend who uses it as well.
- marbu 4y ago
  I have a script (simple ffmpeg wrapper) to generate silent mp3 files: https://github.com/marbu/scriptpile/blob/master/silence.sh https://github.com/marbu/scriptpile/blob/master/silence.sh I'm not quite sure what I needed that for anymore, but I find it interesting that there are such weird use cases for this.
- a9h74j 4y ago
  Call it Subliminal productivity silence and you can make a fortune.
focusedone 4y ago
Modern problems require modern solutions. Nice work.
- yakak 4y ago
  Modem problems require AT solutions, but I guess I need a font problem solution.
dhimes 4y ago
My Toyota only plays my iPhone bluetooth if (a) my car is in bluetooth "mode" and not radio and (b) I have my music app open. I've never experienced what you (two) describe. 2020 Toy and iPhone 11.
- edgyquant 4y ago
  I have a 2017 Toyota and never has that problem. Though for awhile I did have an issue where audible kept starting randomly but it seems to have fixed itself.
mcculley 4y ago
I had a Mercedes lease for three years with the same problem of automatically playing the first song as sorted alphabetically. In my case, it was "A Boy Named Sue" by Johnny Cash. That song loses its humor after you hear it a few hundred times.
- selcuka 4y ago
  Heh, decades ago a Phil Collins tape was stuck in my car's cassette player (yes, that was a thing) and there was no way to switch to radio when there is a tape inside. I guess I listened to that album few hundred times until I decided to do something (probably spray some WD-40) about it.
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- cptcobalt 4y ago
  Same thing with my husband's car, his phone, and the song "A-Punk" by Vampire Weekend. I now jokingly play it as the first song any time we head off on a long road trip, much to his immense frustration.
  - hbn 4y ago
    My car's song of choice is About a Girl (Live Acoustic) from Nirvana's MTV Unplugged in New York live album
  - lloeki 4y ago
    Sort happens by album artist over here, the first one being Take On Me by a-ha, triggering all sorts of physical pavlovian reactions now. Trigger seems to be iOS thinking it's being helpful so that when I "plug" headphones (either physically, bluetoothically, or carplayly) I presumably want to play music. Also, double click on Library in Music.app nee iTunes on macOS. Plays the whole library, linearly, which, like, who does that?
    - derefr 4y ago
      > Also, double click on Library in Music.app nee iTunes on macOS. Plays the whole library, linearly, which, like, who does that? Often, when I see a feature like that, one that makes you ask "who would want to do that with the whole dataset?" — the answer is usually "developers regression-testing their feature branch of the program, where their 'whole dataset' is a test fixture consisting of a bunch of data samples where each one exercises a weird edge-case path in the code." Sure, you could just make a playlist for this. But iTunes has a directory it watches within the library, where putting stuff in it will cause iTunes to automatically move those songs into your library. And if I were an iTunes dev, my scripted "Test" action would consist of creating a new library directory structure; plonking a copy of my regtest fixture dataset into its auto-import dir; starting up the new build targeting that dir; and then sending it the Automator action "Library → Play All." A playlist would only complicate that.
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feet 4y ago
But why the hell is it autoplaying in the first place? Does apple really hate their customers/users so much that they can't make this an option? That's completely insane. The more I learn about apple, the more I see extremely hostile UI decisions for literally no reason
- scifibestfi 4y ago
  I've always assumed this is a bug. Why isn't it just resuming from whatever you were last listening to? And why is this still an issue after so long? This is one of those things that Steve Jobs would have fired people on the spot for.
  - MDGeist 4y ago
    Perhaps I am lucky but my Subaru does resume whatever I was last listening to. Although it seems to prioritize the itunes app over podcasts for some reason so even if I had been listening to a podcast there is a chance it will play whatever was last up in itunes. :/
    - thewebcount 4y ago
      Same. I have an Acura and it plays whatever the last thing that was playing out the speakers or headphones of the phone was. If that was Apple Music, that's what plays. If it was Podcasts, that's what plays. For many years, I used a 3rd party podcast app, and it would play that. It does, however, have the same connection problems described in the root of this thread. Sometimes just doesn't see the car (or vice-versa). Sometimes connects and starts playing within a minute of starting the car. Sometimes (frequently) stops playing after like 1 minute of playing. Sometimes auto-reconnects a minute later, sometimes doesn't. It's very irritating.
  - krallja 4y ago
    If you are listening to Spotify and accidentally engage with a video on Facebook, after the video plays, your device will be completely silent. “Now Playing” will be blank. If you press Play it will resume from whatever was last playing … in Music.app! If you have a HomePod playing your family member’s music, say “Hey Siri, pause” because a phone call came in, and then “Hey Siri, play,” it will start playing wherever _your_ music.app last left off. User intention is a really tricky problem! But a cynical thought would be “why would Apple fix a bug that causes people to use Music.app more?”
SilasX 4y ago
Semi-related: I tried out Microsoft/Ford's SYNC system (voice commands for your car) in '08 and was upset that it didn't seem to support an option for "continue listening to podcast series X where I left off" ... like, the thing you would want to do all the time. (Item 5.) http://blog.tyrannyofthemouse.com/2008/07/setting-sync-straight-or-sync-sucx.html http://blog.tyrannyofthemouse.com/2008/07/setting-sync-strai...
nostromo 4y ago
I wonder how much this person makes in royalties for a silent track.
- lattalayta 4y ago
  Was (and maybe still is?) top of the charts https://www.engadget.com/2017-08-10-silent-10-minute-song-itunes-car-stereo-trick.html https://www.engadget.com/2017-08-10-silent-10-minute-song-it...
bakemawaytoys 4y ago
My car does this too! Except the first song in my library is A Christmas Festival by Boston Pops Orchestra. The song has a dramatic opening, to say the least.
Lammy 4y ago
I use a jailbreak tweak for this: http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.itortrix.stopplayin12/ http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.itortrix.stopplayin12/
iancmceachern 4y ago
Samir is brilliant. Talk about identifying a need and then solving it in the most efficient way possible.
funcDropShadow 4y ago
That is the best workaround for a software problem, I've ever heard.
void-pointer 4y ago
My dad added the song to the library, but it didn’t work, because he has a song called “A” [1] in his library and that one takes priority. It’s a family in-joke now. [1] https://music.apple.com/gb/album/a/1316144097?i=1316144100 https://music.apple.com/gb/album/a/1316144097?i=1316144100

by jefe_ 4y ago

jtbayly 4y ago

I created a one-hour long silent MP3 and named it similarly and added it to my phone. I've sent it to a friend who uses it as well.

marbu 4y ago
I have a script (simple ffmpeg wrapper) to generate silent mp3 files: https://github.com/marbu/scriptpile/blob/master/silence.sh https://github.com/marbu/scriptpile/blob/master/silence.sh I'm not quite sure what I needed that for anymore, but I find it interesting that there are such weird use cases for this.
a9h74j 4y ago
Call it Subliminal productivity silence and you can make a fortune.

focusedone 4y ago

Modern problems require modern solutions. Nice work.

yakak 4y ago
Modem problems require AT solutions, but I guess I need a font problem solution.

dhimes 4y ago

My Toyota only plays my iPhone bluetooth if (a) my car is in bluetooth "mode" and not radio and (b) I have my music app open. I've never experienced what you (two) describe. 2020 Toy and iPhone 11.

edgyquant 4y ago
I have a 2017 Toyota and never has that problem. Though for awhile I did have an issue where audible kept starting randomly but it seems to have fixed itself.

mcculley 4y ago

I had a Mercedes lease for three years with the same problem of automatically playing the first song as sorted alphabetically. In my case, it was "A Boy Named Sue" by Johnny Cash. That song loses its humor after you hear it a few hundred times.

selcuka 4y ago
Heh, decades ago a Phil Collins tape was stuck in my car's cassette player (yes, that was a thing) and there was no way to switch to radio when there is a tape inside. I guess I listened to that album few hundred times until I decided to do something (probably spray some WD-40) about it.
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cptcobalt 4y ago
Same thing with my husband's car, his phone, and the song "A-Punk" by Vampire Weekend. I now jokingly play it as the first song any time we head off on a long road trip, much to his immense frustration.
- hbn 4y ago
  My car's song of choice is About a Girl (Live Acoustic) from Nirvana's MTV Unplugged in New York live album
- lloeki 4y ago
  Sort happens by album artist over here, the first one being Take On Me by a-ha, triggering all sorts of physical pavlovian reactions now. Trigger seems to be iOS thinking it's being helpful so that when I "plug" headphones (either physically, bluetoothically, or carplayly) I presumably want to play music. Also, double click on Library in Music.app nee iTunes on macOS. Plays the whole library, linearly, which, like, who does that?
  - derefr 4y ago
    > Also, double click on Library in Music.app nee iTunes on macOS. Plays the whole library, linearly, which, like, who does that? Often, when I see a feature like that, one that makes you ask "who would want to do that with the whole dataset?" — the answer is usually "developers regression-testing their feature branch of the program, where their 'whole dataset' is a test fixture consisting of a bunch of data samples where each one exercises a weird edge-case path in the code." Sure, you could just make a playlist for this. But iTunes has a directory it watches within the library, where putting stuff in it will cause iTunes to automatically move those songs into your library. And if I were an iTunes dev, my scripted "Test" action would consist of creating a new library directory structure; plonking a copy of my regtest fixture dataset into its auto-import dir; starting up the new build targeting that dir; and then sending it the Automator action "Library → Play All." A playlist would only complicate that.

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feet 4y ago

But why the hell is it autoplaying in the first place? Does apple really hate their customers/users so much that they can't make this an option? That's completely insane. The more I learn about apple, the more I see extremely hostile UI decisions for literally no reason

scifibestfi 4y ago
I've always assumed this is a bug. Why isn't it just resuming from whatever you were last listening to? And why is this still an issue after so long? This is one of those things that Steve Jobs would have fired people on the spot for.
- MDGeist 4y ago
  Perhaps I am lucky but my Subaru does resume whatever I was last listening to. Although it seems to prioritize the itunes app over podcasts for some reason so even if I had been listening to a podcast there is a chance it will play whatever was last up in itunes. :/
  - thewebcount 4y ago
    Same. I have an Acura and it plays whatever the last thing that was playing out the speakers or headphones of the phone was. If that was Apple Music, that's what plays. If it was Podcasts, that's what plays. For many years, I used a 3rd party podcast app, and it would play that. It does, however, have the same connection problems described in the root of this thread. Sometimes just doesn't see the car (or vice-versa). Sometimes connects and starts playing within a minute of starting the car. Sometimes (frequently) stops playing after like 1 minute of playing. Sometimes auto-reconnects a minute later, sometimes doesn't. It's very irritating.
- krallja 4y ago
  If you are listening to Spotify and accidentally engage with a video on Facebook, after the video plays, your device will be completely silent. “Now Playing” will be blank. If you press Play it will resume from whatever was last playing … in Music.app! If you have a HomePod playing your family member’s music, say “Hey Siri, pause” because a phone call came in, and then “Hey Siri, play,” it will start playing wherever _your_ music.app last left off. User intention is a really tricky problem! But a cynical thought would be “why would Apple fix a bug that causes people to use Music.app more?”

SilasX 4y ago

Semi-related: I tried out Microsoft/Ford's SYNC system (voice commands for your car) in '08 and was upset that it didn't seem to support an option for "continue listening to podcast series X where I left off" ... like, the thing you would want to do all the time. (Item 5.) http://blog.tyrannyofthemouse.com/2008/07/setting-sync-straight-or-sync-sucx.html http://blog.tyrannyofthemouse.com/2008/07/setting-sync-strai...

nostromo 4y ago

I wonder how much this person makes in royalties for a silent track.

lattalayta 4y ago
Was (and maybe still is?) top of the charts https://www.engadget.com/2017-08-10-silent-10-minute-song-itunes-car-stereo-trick.html https://www.engadget.com/2017-08-10-silent-10-minute-song-it...

bakemawaytoys 4y ago

My car does this too! Except the first song in my library is A Christmas Festival by Boston Pops Orchestra. The song has a dramatic opening, to say the least.

Lammy 4y ago

I use a jailbreak tweak for this: http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.itortrix.stopplayin12/ http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.itortrix.stopplayin12/

iancmceachern 4y ago

Samir is brilliant. Talk about identifying a need and then solving it in the most efficient way possible.

funcDropShadow 4y ago

That is the best workaround for a software problem, I've ever heard.

void-pointer 4y ago

My dad added the song to the library, but it didn’t work, because he has a song called “A” [1] in his library and that one takes priority. It’s a family in-joke now. [1] https://music.apple.com/gb/album/a/1316144097?i=1316144100 https://music.apple.com/gb/album/a/1316144097?i=1316144100