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For anyone interested in L. Reuteri, you can buy it in the U.S. as Gerber probiotic drops (https://medical.gerber.com/products/supplements/soothe-colic-drops-pr
by jimbru 4y ago
For anyone interested in L. Reuteri, you can buy it in the U.S. as Gerber probiotic drops (https://medical.gerber.com/products/supplements/soothe-colic-drops-probiotic-supplement https://medical.gerber.com/products/supplements/soothe-colic...). Marketed for babies but obviously works on adults too. Last I checked Gerber had an exclusive license on U.S. distribution of this bacterium—there’s a Swedish company, BioGaia, that IIRC is the original patent holder.
- parhamn 4y agoThanks, I came to ask this. It seems like the probiotic market is largely a hit or miss. Reviews online are filled with people claiming their purchases failed milk culturing tests (I don't know if testing as such even works), claims that these bacteria can't survive on warehouse shelves, etc.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y agoThat’s why Visbiome ships in insulated packaging with ice packs. There’s even a color indicator that turns red if the contents exceed a temperature during shipping (and refunds are granted if this indicator is red when it receive the product). You then store in the freezer. Unfortunately, the product does not contain L. Reuteri.
- parhamn 4y agoHave you used it? Are you satisfied?
- TedDoesntTalk 4y agoYes I use it regularly. But I don’t have IBS, Crohns, or any other GI disorder. I use it to periodically populate my gut. So to answer “am I satisfied” is difficult. I don’t notice a difference with or without it, because none of us are consciously aware of our gut micro biome. I could say “well I haven’t been sick in years”, but who knows what else contributes to that.
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago> none of us are consciously aware of our gut micro biome The chronically ill are. I know people who feel when they don't have their Danone.
- supertofu 4y agoI used it for six months. I have UC. It did not help my symptoms one bit, ufortunately. I heard they changed the formula :/ Nowadays I just eat kimchi and kraut and hope for the best.
- candiddevmike 4y agoYou mean the ones on Amazon are fake?
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- milofeynman 4y agoWhy can you patent a naturally occurring bacteria?
- folli 4y agoYou usually patent the use of such bacteria, not the bacteria per se.
- sooheon 4y agoThe strain itself (and its specific genome) can be patented. Not as it's found "in the wild", but with genetic modification. The thing is this "genetic modification" includes not just techniques like CRISPR, but also just letting the bacteria mutate in a vat. I think it's total nonsense, but the law allows it. If wild bacteria growing on your skin happens to mutate into the exact same genetic code as a patented strain, you could technically be in infringement. [1] https://internationalprobiotics.org/focus-on-probiotic-patents-usa/ https://internationalprobiotics.org/focus-on-probiotic-paten...
- reuteriq 4y agoIs it possible to introduce this to the body without buying it specifically? Or put another way, how did people get L. Reuteri without pharmaceutical/supplement companies growing it in labs?
- TedDoesntTalk 4y agoThe article says breast milk is one source. Don’t wean your babies to formula too early! You can buy breast milk from lactating mothers on Craigslist. Good luck.
- folli 4y agoBreast milk is inherently sterile (unless the mother has a severe bacterial infection). It usually gets contaminated with the skin microbiota during feeding. So no, I wouldn't count on L. reuteri being found in a random sample of breast milk.
- joe-collins 4y agoBreast milk is not sterile. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2643565/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2643565/
- folli 4y agoThat's hotly debated. Even the study you cite cannot rule out skin contamination. But unequivocally showing the existence of entero-mammary pathway (translocation of maternal gut bacteria from the gut to the mammary glands) would be very exciting news indeed.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y agoThe article says that L. reuteri is present in other places in the body besides the gut.
- bawolff 4y ago
- cvg 4y agoThis probiotic at Costco also has reuteri, “trunature Advanced Digestive Probiotic”. 15$ per 100 caps https://www.costco.com/trunature-advanced-digestive-probiotic%2C-100-capsules.product.100387855.html https://www.costco.com/trunature-advanced-digestive-probioti...
- m463 4y agoalso costco has "garden of life" probiotics with it too
- fasteo 4y agoThat's correct for BioGaia. In Europe, it is rather easy to buy. "BioGaia Gastrus" contains 2 strains of L. Reuteri (DSM 17938 and ATCC PTA 6475) I crush the tablets to make yogurt following Dr. Davis recipe in SuperGut [1] [1] https://www.amazon.com/Super-Gut-Four-Week-Reprogram-Microbiome-ebook/dp/B096RTDMXV https://www.amazon.com/Super-Gut-Four-Week-Reprogram-Microbi...
- oigursh 4y agoI have questions, please. How long have you been eating the yoghurt? Do you use any other tablets/pills/etc to make it? Why make the yoghurt instead of just eating the pills? What do you think it's done for you?
- fasteo 4y ago>>> How long have you been eating the yoghurt? About 3-4 months now >>> Do you use any other tablets/pills/etc to make it? No, but there are other recipes in the book than combine different bacteria >>> Why make the yoghurt instead of just eating the pills? To increase bacterial count; often like x1000 (from millios to billions) >>> What do you think it's done for you? I did not take it for any particular reason, so I was not expecting much. Most definetively, improved mood after 3 weeks.