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I find the vimmaxxing message common enough but I disagree with it. Not because vim vs nano vs emacs etc. Just that plain text is not enough. I want to be able to encode more of my memory and context to my notes with a minimum of fuss, and therefore want to embed images (gasp!), tables, hyperlinks, and even file or sound embeds in my documents. Yes, open simple file formats are better than closed complex formats (and doing text vs binary formats has something to say for it as well). No, I don't like that Onenote's .ONE file specification is super complex and therefore only semi-open. But I'm not about to lock myself into a DEC dumb terminals 80x24 limitations where I have to learn some greybeard's key bindings for everything, all for the privilege of losing all my ability to embed multimedia combined with said gatekeepers tut-tutting me that I should just make a link in my terminal to the local image file, nevermind that you can't copy/paste an image into a bash terminal and have the file be saved to that directory (ok it probably exists but is some obscure something). So I watch Xournal++ very closely, specifically [this issue](https://github.com/xournalpp/xournalpp/issues/937 https://github.com/xournalpp/xournalpp/issues/937) because it will have the total package, multimedia embeds, ink support, text support, file embeds, all in one file that I can syncthing save to wherever else I like. But until then? Onenote desktop, sorry but not that sorry.

suzzer99 4y ago
iOS notes has changed my life. It's available on my work Mac, home Mac, and iPhone, and is always synced. It has everything I need and nothing more.
- withinboredom 4y ago
  I stopped using it when I needed to work in Windows. I use InkDrop these days which is cross-platform.
- JohnBooty 4y ago
  I like Bear.app (MacOS, iOS, iPadOS) even better. Specifically, I love that it's Markdown-based and has support for code blocks with syntax highlighting. Only problem is that it uses iCloud Drive for syncing and my employer has blocked that. :-/ I agree with you, though: Notes is really quite good. I'm not sure how Notes syncs, exactly, but for whatever reason it's not blocked by my employer.
  - and0 4y ago
    I think I've just decided to drop Bear for Obsidian on Mac. I need that plugin support (hard to leave VSCode line shifting hotkeys), and the code blocks work so much better.
    - JohnBooty 4y ago
      Hmmmm, thanks for giving me something to check out.
- spyke112 4y ago
  Worth mentioning that it's also available on web at icloud.com. I don't have a mac, but have an iPhone and iPad, and i love the Notes app for quick things and lists that I want to remember - and it's accessible from anywhere.
- i2shar 4y ago
  Yes, same experience, but I wish there was code formatting in Notes. A lot of my notes are code snippets and Notes fails there. I've recently switched to Obsidian with the iCloud drive backup and trying to get used to it.
- pantulis 4y ago
  Beware: there is not an easy migration path out of Apple Notes. Also sync is not that great for massive datasets: I tried to sync my 22k-ish Evernote notes to Apple Notes and it took days and I never got the same number of notes on all the different devices. If you are currently building your notes you will probably not encounter this issue, though.
  - pqs 4y ago
    I also almost have 20k Evernote notes. I was considering obsidian, but the devs say that obsidian is designed for a maximum of 20k notes. So, I'm already on the upper bound, as you are. Probably, obsidian would be slow if I import all my notes. Evernote, on a Windows 10 Desktop, now works fast, at least for me. I think we undervalue this fact, we undervalue the fact that it is hard to make good note taking apps that can sync and search fast with more than 20k notes. I guess there are users with 60k notes!
    - pantulis 4y ago
      Evernote, for all the flak it is getting, is still a remarkable product and I feel like the pricing is fair for what it gives. It ingests everything from everywhere, it indexes and scans everything for a flat fee. They are currently still catching up to reach feature parity with the old native clients, but at least they are releasing more frequently --which means betting the house on Electron technology is paying off--. I do not use Evernote any more (finally ended up with plain files in iCloud Drive and EagleFiler to top it off) but I am still following their releases as a paying customer.
      - pqs 4y ago
        Evernote is indeed a great piece of software. They have gone through very difficult times, but now the Desktop app is working very well (not the Android client, which is very slow, but improving), it is fast and despite it lacks some old features, it has great new features, like Tasks. I would not be able to work without it. Each time I thought about moving out, I realized I could not, because of some nice feature. So, Evernote is great and it is here to stay. My feeling is that those who are happy with Evernote do not write blog posts or tweets about it, it is mostly the haters and the frustrated who are writing out there.
- nicbou 4y ago
  Notability will pop your block off
rscho 4y ago
> I want to be able to encode more of my memory and context to my notes with a minimum of fuss, and therefore want to embed images (gasp!), tables, hyperlinks, and even file or sound embeds in my documents. On my scale of highly upvoted uninformed opinion, this ranks high up there, next to Bill Gates microchip vaccines...
- oblio 4y ago
  > On my scale of highly upvoted uninformed opinion, this ranks high up there, next to Bill Gates microchip vaccines... Is this comment auto-generated? What do you mean?
neurostimulant 4y ago
What about running wordpress locally instead? It does sounds like suitable for your needs. A single docker-compose.yml is all it takes.
hoseja 4y ago
Sounds like TempleOS is the choice for you!
mixmastamyk 4y ago
Terminals have improved a lot since the dumb. Think your comment would do better without the slight. However, I use CUA keybindings myself.
retrocryptid 4y ago
or you could use xterm's vt240 mode (from 1989 or so) and use emacs or vim extensions that embed sixel data in text files. just because you didn't read the manual doesn't mean it can't be done.
- yCombLinks 4y ago
  There's a million things with manuals to read. I would rather grab something that just works in an obvious way.
  - filchermcurr 4y ago
    This is oddly sad to me. It's like hearing somebody say that you don't need to read a book when you can just watch the movie adaptation. You're missing out on so much depth and growth potential by just settling for the easiest option. Maybe I'm just a weirdo. I love reading manuals and discovering interesting nuances in the things I use every day. Or picking some new software at random and learning about it just because it's fun and interesting.
    - sasaf5 4y ago
      I prefer both. I like when something works right out of the box. And then I read the manual and find out about all those moments when the defaults were saving me from my foolishness. And then I can unfold the thing's real potential.
    - asciimov 4y ago
      Not op but I’ve got 25 years of daily computer use under me. I’m tired of having to read manuals and try to figure out the latest popular app. Software should be better these days, more intuitive to use, more interoperability between applications, data should be even more portable. This isn’t to say I don’t enjoy learning apps anymore, I just have to guard my time more wisely.
      - retrocryptid 4y ago
metadat 4y ago
CUA bindings, for the initiated (like me!): https://wiki.c2.com/?CommonUserAccess https://wiki.c2.com/?CommonUserAccess
pxc 4y ago
> I want to be able to encode more of my memory and context to my notes with a minimum of fuss, and therefore want to embed images (gasp!), tables, hyperlinks, and even file or sound embeds in my documents. I do this stuff with my notes in Emacs and it's really nice. Emacs is a graphical application and its notetaking facilities are really outstanding. It even supports syntax highlighted, executable, exportable code snippets, as well as all the basic text formatting, hyperlinks, tables of contents, tables, etc. It's a great tool for developers and sysadmins to use for notetaking. If you know Emacs isn't for you, that's totally fine, but I wanted to throw this out there for bystanders that when someone suggests to build your notetaking workflow around a great text editor, the proposition is not at all to somehow confine oneself to an 1980s terminal.
- nextos 4y ago
  Same here. I use Emacs to write tons of notes. I rely heavily on tables, hyperlinks, timestamps and tags. Images are also possible, just not part of my workflow. All this is trivial, out of the box and I know it will still work many years down the road. Even custom hyperlinks and text notes that refer to chunks inside PDFs are easy to do.
  - deepnet 4y ago
    My life and work would be impoverished without emacs. Thank you Richard
    - b112 4y ago
      I personally dislike emacs, but say the same. Why? vim would not be what it is, without emacs to rage against.
      - glumpsoff 4y ago
        vim would not be what it is without having become a shallow emacs. Emacs is emacs because its extensible, between vim, neovim and vim9, im starting to think people might enjoy the extensibility seeing as that brings vim up to 3 scripting languages to write things in. vim has become what it purported to hate
jjoonathan 4y ago
Agreed 100%. My core workflow is "snap a picture, draw on it." I deal with hardware, and the bandwidth with which this lets me get physical information into the computer is so far beyond any Markdown-based workflow that I can't go back. I suspect this result would hold for many non-software professions. For now, I've settled on GoodNotes because it's good enough at PDF Backup, OCR Search, and drawing. I have given solid tries to Evernote, ZoomNotes, Concepts, and Notion, and they each are amazingly better than GoodNotes in at least one major respect, sometimes multiple, but none of them are good enough on those zero-compromise requirements and GoodNotes is. FWIW. EDIT: Oh, while I'm flamebaiting, I also use my ipad camera to take pictures of screens. Life is too short to schlep screenshots between computers, especially the ancient ones that run scientific equipment (lots of 68000, XP on some recent ones). Printer emulators and java applets can get bent. Runs everywhere, my ass. Moore's Law has given us gigahertz and megapixels, and if I can use them to eliminate painful asinine pointless busywork that's my god-given right and nobody is going to convince me otherwise. Sometimes I even use my ipad camera to take a screenshot of something on my PC and toss it into the mix. Sue me.
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- spiderfarmer 4y ago
  Shift+CMD+5, adjust rectangle, CMD+C Paste on your iPad Clipboards are synced through iCloud.
  - 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
    kde connect does that, well with text atleast, you just do copy on your desktop/phone and paste on the other device because it keeps your clipboard in sync. now kde connect is even on IOS so basically all major operating systems now has cross compatibilty via kde connect which is cool. if i had to share a screenshot from my laptop/phone, it is a matter of taking the screenshot and "sharing" via kde connect. take all of 3-5 seconds and this workflow is now available to everyone
    - 4y ago
momojo 4y ago
> I want to be able to encode more of my memory and context to my notes with a minimum of fuss, and therefore want to embed images (gasp!), tables, hyperlinks, and even file or sound embeds in my documents I swear I'm not shilling for Google Keep, but I've found myself using it more and more over the last couple of years; it hits a sweet spot between "limited enough that I don't get distracted" and "advanced enough that I can still express myself". The biggest praise is its ubiquity. It's just there when I need it. Interesting article + my in-the-moment thoughts? Google Keep-ed. Want to add a reflection at the end of the day with a picture? Google Keep-ed. Need to remember an address in the car? Toss it in the Keep and open it on my phone.
- popcube 4y ago
  notion/joplin or another note software
  - lolive 4y ago
    Obsidian! #justTryIt
    - nbzso 4y ago
      Obsidian changed everything for me. Years of markdown notes and pdf's finally in one place with easy search and synced to my Synology. Svg for the visual stuff. And Vim key bindings. Multiplatform and extendable with plugins.:)
      - youngNed 4y ago
        this, the fact thatit is just markdown files means i can add images in the app, should i need and i can use this to add a quick note from the terminal function qn () { date_today=$(date +%F) year=$(date +%Y) month=$(date +%m) day=$(date +%d) FNAME="$NOTES_DIR/Work/journal/$date_today.md" #FNAME="$NOTES_DIR/Work/journal/$year/$date_today.md" echo "### $(date +%F' '%T)" >> $FNAME rlwrap cat >> $FNAME # echo -e "\n" >> $FNAME } I've tried a lot, but obsidian works for me
usrbinbash 4y ago
> and therefore want to embed images (gasp!), tables, hyperlinks, and even file or sound embeds in my documents. And exactly which one of them can't I do in asciidoc?
- Arcanum-XIII 4y ago
  I guess he means in a wysiwyg way. That's all fun and game till you have to open a different editor for multimedia stuff, render the document and update it "blindly" in the source so everything works...
  - usrbinbash 4y ago
    Doesn't even take until then before it fails for me...wysiwyg formats are traditionally a nightmare for version control systems. All my plaintext notes in Markdown and Asciidoc can be checked in without a problem :-)
    - Multicomp 4y ago
      I did mean a wysiwyg style yes. If it is more than step 1 cut, step 2 paste, the tool has too many steps for my workflow, which like other users have posted is mostly a braindump of knowledge or context around several tables, links, and images/screenshots, sometimes with digital ink if I'm on a device with an active stylus. But for producing formal documents, I have checked out asciidoc before and have respect for its capabilities, I just don't consider it in the running for my particular workflow as I see it as a different tool. I'm not after version control for my notes though I know many others like it.
DysodiumRecut 4y ago
I totally agree with you. One Note is fantastic and I would like to use it but not being able to open the notes in linux makes me avoid it. Do you know if there is a way of opening One Note notes in Linux without using the webapp? (I don't even need to edit them!) In the meantime, I'm using stylyslab write [0] which uses svgz and is a good replacement for OneNote and a compromise I'm willing to make to not be locked in but tbh the OneNote app is just so much better. [0] http://styluslabs.com/ http://styluslabs.com/
- Multicomp 4y ago
  You are correct, I have write3 installed on my phone and need to use it on the desktop too for that same reason. I keep having dreams of making a linuxnote for OneNote files since the file format is technically open specs, but as they are super complex and I've barely opened a hex editor before I just don't know what I'm doing enough to actually try parsing the bytes of an arbitrary file yet.
dirkc 4y ago
Rough, hand-drawn diagrams and spreadsheets are where my text-based note taking system falls apart.
- dotancohen 4y ago
  Org mode has a table feature that does most of what I'd do in a spreadsheet anyway. https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-spreadsheet-intro.html https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-spreadsheet-intro...
  - dirkc 4y ago
    The reason I really like text for a lot of note taking is that I find it a lot easier to use compared to a word processor. Word processors tries to be smart about formatting, but never fails to annoy me. I still struggle editing the text of a link regularly. But spreadsheets applications tend to be more useful than annoying. Doing tables with formulas in text docs are possible, but it seems more annoying than useful. In some instances I enjoy using jupyter notebooks.
kzrdude 4y ago
I guess the tweet about it is a joke but funny though. It says even use Vim for tweets, but then it also says sent using IPhone.
dgb23 4y ago
Sounds like HTML to me, or at least the output of it.
joe8756438 4y ago
I wrote a library to parse plain text notes, sowhat [0] that delivers a lot of semantic and structural information. Notes for me solve lots of problems in my routine that wouldnt work with a markdown implementation: tasks, budgets, time management, reading lists, work log, simple calculations that operate on the global notes environment, etc. Sowhat handles transactional data well, you could implement double-entry for example with relative ease. Other things include: links, events, quotes, tasks, formulas and a few organizational elements. I combine these elements in different ways depending on the problem. [0] https://github.com/tatatap-com/sowhat https://github.com/tatatap-com/sowhat

suzzer99 4y ago

iOS notes has changed my life. It's available on my work Mac, home Mac, and iPhone, and is always synced. It has everything I need and nothing more.

withinboredom 4y ago
I stopped using it when I needed to work in Windows. I use InkDrop these days which is cross-platform.
JohnBooty 4y ago
I like Bear.app (MacOS, iOS, iPadOS) even better. Specifically, I love that it's Markdown-based and has support for code blocks with syntax highlighting. Only problem is that it uses iCloud Drive for syncing and my employer has blocked that. :-/ I agree with you, though: Notes is really quite good. I'm not sure how Notes syncs, exactly, but for whatever reason it's not blocked by my employer.
- and0 4y ago
  I think I've just decided to drop Bear for Obsidian on Mac. I need that plugin support (hard to leave VSCode line shifting hotkeys), and the code blocks work so much better.
  - JohnBooty 4y ago
    Hmmmm, thanks for giving me something to check out.
spyke112 4y ago
Worth mentioning that it's also available on web at icloud.com. I don't have a mac, but have an iPhone and iPad, and i love the Notes app for quick things and lists that I want to remember - and it's accessible from anywhere.
i2shar 4y ago
Yes, same experience, but I wish there was code formatting in Notes. A lot of my notes are code snippets and Notes fails there. I've recently switched to Obsidian with the iCloud drive backup and trying to get used to it.
pantulis 4y ago
Beware: there is not an easy migration path out of Apple Notes. Also sync is not that great for massive datasets: I tried to sync my 22k-ish Evernote notes to Apple Notes and it took days and I never got the same number of notes on all the different devices. If you are currently building your notes you will probably not encounter this issue, though.
- pqs 4y ago
  I also almost have 20k Evernote notes. I was considering obsidian, but the devs say that obsidian is designed for a maximum of 20k notes. So, I'm already on the upper bound, as you are. Probably, obsidian would be slow if I import all my notes. Evernote, on a Windows 10 Desktop, now works fast, at least for me. I think we undervalue this fact, we undervalue the fact that it is hard to make good note taking apps that can sync and search fast with more than 20k notes. I guess there are users with 60k notes!
  - pantulis 4y ago
    Evernote, for all the flak it is getting, is still a remarkable product and I feel like the pricing is fair for what it gives. It ingests everything from everywhere, it indexes and scans everything for a flat fee. They are currently still catching up to reach feature parity with the old native clients, but at least they are releasing more frequently --which means betting the house on Electron technology is paying off--. I do not use Evernote any more (finally ended up with plain files in iCloud Drive and EagleFiler to top it off) but I am still following their releases as a paying customer.
    - pqs 4y ago
      Evernote is indeed a great piece of software. They have gone through very difficult times, but now the Desktop app is working very well (not the Android client, which is very slow, but improving), it is fast and despite it lacks some old features, it has great new features, like Tasks. I would not be able to work without it. Each time I thought about moving out, I realized I could not, because of some nice feature. So, Evernote is great and it is here to stay. My feeling is that those who are happy with Evernote do not write blog posts or tweets about it, it is mostly the haters and the frustrated who are writing out there.
nicbou 4y ago
Notability will pop your block off

rscho 4y ago

oblio 4y ago
> On my scale of highly upvoted uninformed opinion, this ranks high up there, next to Bill Gates microchip vaccines... Is this comment auto-generated? What do you mean?

neurostimulant 4y ago

What about running wordpress locally instead? It does sounds like suitable for your needs. A single docker-compose.yml is all it takes.

hoseja 4y ago

Sounds like TempleOS is the choice for you!

mixmastamyk 4y ago

Terminals have improved a lot since the dumb. Think your comment would do better without the slight. However, I use CUA keybindings myself.

retrocryptid 4y ago

or you could use xterm's vt240 mode (from 1989 or so) and use emacs or vim extensions that embed sixel data in text files. just because you didn't read the manual doesn't mean it can't be done.

yCombLinks 4y ago
There's a million things with manuals to read. I would rather grab something that just works in an obvious way.
- filchermcurr 4y ago
  This is oddly sad to me. It's like hearing somebody say that you don't need to read a book when you can just watch the movie adaptation. You're missing out on so much depth and growth potential by just settling for the easiest option. Maybe I'm just a weirdo. I love reading manuals and discovering interesting nuances in the things I use every day. Or picking some new software at random and learning about it just because it's fun and interesting.
  - sasaf5 4y ago
    I prefer both. I like when something works right out of the box. And then I read the manual and find out about all those moments when the defaults were saving me from my foolishness. And then I can unfold the thing's real potential.
  - asciimov 4y ago
    Not op but I’ve got 25 years of daily computer use under me. I’m tired of having to read manuals and try to figure out the latest popular app. Software should be better these days, more intuitive to use, more interoperability between applications, data should be even more portable. This isn’t to say I don’t enjoy learning apps anymore, I just have to guard my time more wisely.
    - retrocryptid 4y ago

metadat 4y ago

CUA bindings, for the initiated (like me!): https://wiki.c2.com/?CommonUserAccess https://wiki.c2.com/?CommonUserAccess

pxc 4y ago

> I want to be able to encode more of my memory and context to my notes with a minimum of fuss, and therefore want to embed images (gasp!), tables, hyperlinks, and even file or sound embeds in my documents. I do this stuff with my notes in Emacs and it's really nice. Emacs is a graphical application and its notetaking facilities are really outstanding. It even supports syntax highlighted, executable, exportable code snippets, as well as all the basic text formatting, hyperlinks, tables of contents, tables, etc. It's a great tool for developers and sysadmins to use for notetaking. If you know Emacs isn't for you, that's totally fine, but I wanted to throw this out there for bystanders that when someone suggests to build your notetaking workflow around a great text editor, the proposition is not at all to somehow confine oneself to an 1980s terminal.

nextos 4y ago
Same here. I use Emacs to write tons of notes. I rely heavily on tables, hyperlinks, timestamps and tags. Images are also possible, just not part of my workflow. All this is trivial, out of the box and I know it will still work many years down the road. Even custom hyperlinks and text notes that refer to chunks inside PDFs are easy to do.
- deepnet 4y ago
  My life and work would be impoverished without emacs. Thank you Richard
  - b112 4y ago
    I personally dislike emacs, but say the same. Why? vim would not be what it is, without emacs to rage against.
    - glumpsoff 4y ago
      vim would not be what it is without having become a shallow emacs. Emacs is emacs because its extensible, between vim, neovim and vim9, im starting to think people might enjoy the extensibility seeing as that brings vim up to 3 scripting languages to write things in. vim has become what it purported to hate

jjoonathan 4y ago

Agreed 100%. My core workflow is "snap a picture, draw on it." I deal with hardware, and the bandwidth with which this lets me get physical information into the computer is so far beyond any Markdown-based workflow that I can't go back. I suspect this result would hold for many non-software professions. For now, I've settled on GoodNotes because it's good enough at PDF Backup, OCR Search, and drawing. I have given solid tries to Evernote, ZoomNotes, Concepts, and Notion, and they each are amazingly better than GoodNotes in at least one major respect, sometimes multiple, but none of them are good enough on those zero-compromise requirements and GoodNotes is. FWIW. EDIT: Oh, while I'm flamebaiting, I also use my ipad camera to take pictures of screens. Life is too short to schlep screenshots between computers, especially the ancient ones that run scientific equipment (lots of 68000, XP on some recent ones). Printer emulators and java applets can get bent. Runs everywhere, my ass. Moore's Law has given us gigahertz and megapixels, and if I can use them to eliminate painful asinine pointless busywork that's my god-given right and nobody is going to convince me otherwise. Sometimes I even use my ipad camera to take a screenshot of something on my PC and toss it into the mix. Sue me.

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spiderfarmer 4y ago
Shift+CMD+5, adjust rectangle, CMD+C Paste on your iPad Clipboards are synced through iCloud.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
  kde connect does that, well with text atleast, you just do copy on your desktop/phone and paste on the other device because it keeps your clipboard in sync. now kde connect is even on IOS so basically all major operating systems now has cross compatibilty via kde connect which is cool. if i had to share a screenshot from my laptop/phone, it is a matter of taking the screenshot and "sharing" via kde connect. take all of 3-5 seconds and this workflow is now available to everyone
  - 4y ago

momojo 4y ago

> I want to be able to encode more of my memory and context to my notes with a minimum of fuss, and therefore want to embed images (gasp!), tables, hyperlinks, and even file or sound embeds in my documents I swear I'm not shilling for Google Keep, but I've found myself using it more and more over the last couple of years; it hits a sweet spot between "limited enough that I don't get distracted" and "advanced enough that I can still express myself". The biggest praise is its ubiquity. It's just there when I need it. Interesting article + my in-the-moment thoughts? Google Keep-ed. Want to add a reflection at the end of the day with a picture? Google Keep-ed. Need to remember an address in the car? Toss it in the Keep and open it on my phone.

popcube 4y ago
notion/joplin or another note software
- lolive 4y ago
  Obsidian! #justTryIt
  - nbzso 4y ago
    Obsidian changed everything for me. Years of markdown notes and pdf's finally in one place with easy search and synced to my Synology. Svg for the visual stuff. And Vim key bindings. Multiplatform and extendable with plugins.:)
    - youngNed 4y ago
      this, the fact thatit is just markdown files means i can add images in the app, should i need and i can use this to add a quick note from the terminal function qn () { date_today=$(date +%F) year=$(date +%Y) month=$(date +%m) day=$(date +%d) FNAME="$NOTES_DIR/Work/journal/$date_today.md" #FNAME="$NOTES_DIR/Work/journal/$year/$date_today.md" echo "### $(date +%F' '%T)" >> $FNAME rlwrap cat >> $FNAME # echo -e "\n" >> $FNAME } I've tried a lot, but obsidian works for me

usrbinbash 4y ago

> and therefore want to embed images (gasp!), tables, hyperlinks, and even file or sound embeds in my documents. And exactly which one of them can't I do in asciidoc?

Arcanum-XIII 4y ago
I guess he means in a wysiwyg way. That's all fun and game till you have to open a different editor for multimedia stuff, render the document and update it "blindly" in the source so everything works...
- usrbinbash 4y ago
  Doesn't even take until then before it fails for me...wysiwyg formats are traditionally a nightmare for version control systems. All my plaintext notes in Markdown and Asciidoc can be checked in without a problem :-)
  - Multicomp 4y ago
    I did mean a wysiwyg style yes. If it is more than step 1 cut, step 2 paste, the tool has too many steps for my workflow, which like other users have posted is mostly a braindump of knowledge or context around several tables, links, and images/screenshots, sometimes with digital ink if I'm on a device with an active stylus. But for producing formal documents, I have checked out asciidoc before and have respect for its capabilities, I just don't consider it in the running for my particular workflow as I see it as a different tool. I'm not after version control for my notes though I know many others like it.

DysodiumRecut 4y ago

I totally agree with you. One Note is fantastic and I would like to use it but not being able to open the notes in linux makes me avoid it. Do you know if there is a way of opening One Note notes in Linux without using the webapp? (I don't even need to edit them!) In the meantime, I'm using stylyslab write [0] which uses svgz and is a good replacement for OneNote and a compromise I'm willing to make to not be locked in but tbh the OneNote app is just so much better. [0] http://styluslabs.com/ http://styluslabs.com/

Multicomp 4y ago
You are correct, I have write3 installed on my phone and need to use it on the desktop too for that same reason. I keep having dreams of making a linuxnote for OneNote files since the file format is technically open specs, but as they are super complex and I've barely opened a hex editor before I just don't know what I'm doing enough to actually try parsing the bytes of an arbitrary file yet.

dirkc 4y ago

Rough, hand-drawn diagrams and spreadsheets are where my text-based note taking system falls apart.

dotancohen 4y ago
Org mode has a table feature that does most of what I'd do in a spreadsheet anyway. https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-spreadsheet-intro.html https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-spreadsheet-intro...
- dirkc 4y ago
  The reason I really like text for a lot of note taking is that I find it a lot easier to use compared to a word processor. Word processors tries to be smart about formatting, but never fails to annoy me. I still struggle editing the text of a link regularly. But spreadsheets applications tend to be more useful than annoying. Doing tables with formulas in text docs are possible, but it seems more annoying than useful. In some instances I enjoy using jupyter notebooks.

kzrdude 4y ago

I guess the tweet about it is a joke but funny though. It says even use Vim for tweets, but then it also says sent using IPhone.

dgb23 4y ago

Sounds like HTML to me, or at least the output of it.

joe8756438 4y ago

I wrote a library to parse plain text notes, sowhat [0] that delivers a lot of semantic and structural information. Notes for me solve lots of problems in my routine that wouldnt work with a markdown implementation: tasks, budgets, time management, reading lists, work log, simple calculations that operate on the global notes environment, etc. Sowhat handles transactional data well, you could implement double-entry for example with relative ease. Other things include: links, events, quotes, tasks, formulas and a few organizational elements. I combine these elements in different ways depending on the problem. [0] https://github.com/tatatap-com/sowhat https://github.com/tatatap-com/sowhat