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The biggest mistake he and Democrats keep making is blaming “billionaire Republicans”. It’s not Republicans it’s Democrats voting him out. He either refuses to

The biggest mistake he and Democrats keep making is blaming “billionaire Republicans”. It’s not Republicans it’s Democrats voting him out. He either refuses to acknowledge that the Democrat voters themselves are rejecting his policies out of hubris or it’s a way to shame democrats by accusing them of acting like Republicans. But it didn’t work and only infuriated and calcified anti-Boudin people even more. Democrats at the federal level better take heed. If San Francisco who is overwhelmingly Democrat will reject extreme progressive policies like Boudin’s, hopefully it means the Dems can regain some sense of rationality. My friends and I have all made a pact that we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is. That’s the only way we can change behavior is through voting, and in CA they have come to take voters for granted for decades and left California a progressive experiment gone off the rails to the point of lunacy.

loudmax 4y ago
> we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is That's pretty illustrative of a lot of American politics. Republicans have been moving further and further away from the center for the past six years, and have paid little price for their extremism.
orblivion 4y ago
> blaming “billionaire Republicans” I just can't imagine a world where an ousted politician (or elected bureaucrat in this case) says "wow I guess I really fucked up, I'm sorry. I'll pack my things and be out in the morning". They have to save face by blaming somebody.
- dash2 4y ago
  Maybe it is different in the UK. John Major, 1997: "Tonight we have suffered a very bad defeat, let us not pretend to ourselves that it was anything other than what it was. Unless we accept it for what it was, and look at it, we will be less able to put it right." Ed Miliband, 2015: "I take absolute and total responsibility for our defeat. I'm so sorry for all those colleagues who lost their seats."
- belval 4y ago
  No, maybe this is the norm in the US, but this is not normal and we should not pretend it is. In Canada, most defeat speeches I've watched were about the candidate mistakes, what they were proud of having accomplished, etc... Playing the blame game is pathetic. If you want an example, Stephen Harper's concession speech in 2015 was pretty good.
  - orblivion 4y ago
    Concession for a normal political defeat is one thing. In the US they don't usually blame, they do how you describe, and congratulate the opponent. Even Donald Trump did this once or twice to Ted Cruz in the primary. A recall is specifically calling out the politician for failing badly enough to interrupt the election cycle.
adamsmith143 4y ago
>My friends and I have all made a pact that we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is. This is an extremely dangerous position to take. You are literally willing to vote Hitler into office rather than a progressive?
- tyen_ 4y ago
  Let me know when Adolf Hitler literally runs for office in the United States.
- voidfunc 4y ago
  Better dead than red (progressive/communist) is a statement a lot of people would agree with in the US.
  - adamsmith143 4y ago
    A lot of people in the US would also be completely wrong. Progressives != communist and if anyone seriously thinks people in the Mainstream of the Democratic party are actually communist they are insane.
- rojcyk 4y ago
  That is a huge stretch.
  - adamsmith143 4y ago
    >That is a huge stretch. Is it though? "we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is." No matter how horrible.
  - Bud 4y ago
    Anyone who thinks this is a stretch needs to be watching the Jan. 6th hearings tomorrow night. We came within a hair of a fascist takeover of the US in 2021. That threat is now stronger than it has ever been.
QuarterReptile 4y ago
Are there Republicans on ballots in San Francisco? My impression is that races tended to be between different flavors of Democrat in most cases.
the_biot 4y ago
> My friends and I have all made a pact that we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is. I would recommend making an exception for Republicans who deny Biden won the 2020 election. The #1 rule for voting in a democracy is: never vote for somebody who doesn't believe in democracy, because chances are you will never get to vote him out.
vouwfietsman 4y ago
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loudmax 4y ago

> we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is That's pretty illustrative of a lot of American politics. Republicans have been moving further and further away from the center for the past six years, and have paid little price for their extremism.

orblivion 4y ago

> blaming “billionaire Republicans” I just can't imagine a world where an ousted politician (or elected bureaucrat in this case) says "wow I guess I really fucked up, I'm sorry. I'll pack my things and be out in the morning". They have to save face by blaming somebody.

dash2 4y ago
Maybe it is different in the UK. John Major, 1997: "Tonight we have suffered a very bad defeat, let us not pretend to ourselves that it was anything other than what it was. Unless we accept it for what it was, and look at it, we will be less able to put it right." Ed Miliband, 2015: "I take absolute and total responsibility for our defeat. I'm so sorry for all those colleagues who lost their seats."
belval 4y ago
No, maybe this is the norm in the US, but this is not normal and we should not pretend it is. In Canada, most defeat speeches I've watched were about the candidate mistakes, what they were proud of having accomplished, etc... Playing the blame game is pathetic. If you want an example, Stephen Harper's concession speech in 2015 was pretty good.
- orblivion 4y ago
  Concession for a normal political defeat is one thing. In the US they don't usually blame, they do how you describe, and congratulate the opponent. Even Donald Trump did this once or twice to Ted Cruz in the primary. A recall is specifically calling out the politician for failing badly enough to interrupt the election cycle.

adamsmith143 4y ago

>My friends and I have all made a pact that we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is. This is an extremely dangerous position to take. You are literally willing to vote Hitler into office rather than a progressive?

tyen_ 4y ago
Let me know when Adolf Hitler literally runs for office in the United States.
voidfunc 4y ago
Better dead than red (progressive/communist) is a statement a lot of people would agree with in the US.
- adamsmith143 4y ago
  A lot of people in the US would also be completely wrong. Progressives != communist and if anyone seriously thinks people in the Mainstream of the Democratic party are actually communist they are insane.
rojcyk 4y ago
That is a huge stretch.
- adamsmith143 4y ago
  >That is a huge stretch. Is it though? "we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is." No matter how horrible.
- Bud 4y ago
  Anyone who thinks this is a stretch needs to be watching the Jan. 6th hearings tomorrow night. We came within a hair of a fascist takeover of the US in 2021. That threat is now stronger than it has ever been.

QuarterReptile 4y ago

Are there Republicans on ballots in San Francisco? My impression is that races tended to be between different flavors of Democrat in most cases.

the_biot 4y ago

> My friends and I have all made a pact that we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is. I would recommend making an exception for Republicans who deny Biden won the 2020 election. The #1 rule for voting in a democracy is: never vote for somebody who doesn't believe in democracy, because chances are you will never get to vote him out.

vouwfietsman 4y ago

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