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I have a mostly driverless car right now parked in my garage. My Tesla does about 95% of driving for me. I rode in a fullY autonomous car, with nobody in the

by blhack 4y ago

I have a mostly driverless car right now parked in my garage. My Tesla does about 95% of driving for me. I rode in a fullY autonomous car, with nobody in the drivers seat, about a year ago (we have had fully autonomous waymos in Phoenix for a few years now).

tomca32 4y ago
I was really disappointed with the service area though. I was hoping it would be available as you say "in Phoenix", but it's only available in Chandler which is just one suburb south-east of Phoenix. Service has been this way since it was introduced a few years ago. I really expected them to expand by now.
gambiting 4y ago
Yes, a do you not find yourself anxious about the remaining 5%? I've seen FSD do some batshit insane stuff on the road that even a geriatric blind driver wouldn't do. And it's not like you have any time to react either, like, you have to take over the steering NOW because the car decided to just give up in the middle of an intersection.
- adoxyz 4y ago
  Not at all, because I know that if the driving conditions change and I have a feeling the car won't do well, I take over. In other instances, where I know the car is going to do just fine, like driving on the freeway, I enable it. FSD/Autonomous driving isn't an all or nothing scenario for me. I use it when I deem it safe to be used, and drive manually every other time.
- blhack 4y ago
  The remaining 5% are almost all situations where I take over because I’m underestimating what the car is capable of. For instance: I don’t like how close it drives to the curb. I don’t drive close to the curb (and bias towards the center of a road) because I only have two eyes, and can’t really see the curb as I’m moving. I have an intuitive sense of how close I am, but that’s it. The car knows exactly how close I am. So it driving in the center of a lame, while it makes me nervous because it’s now how I drive, is perfectly acceptable. What I wish Tesla would do: set up some closed courses for people to come and experience what FSD is actually capable of. It would help the current FSD users gain confidence in the system, and it would show it off to people who haven’t ever experienced it. I seriously don’t believe that most of the people who are critical of this thing have spent much time with it. I’ll admit after the first day or so I was skeptical too, in the same way I was skeptical of lane keeping and proximity aware cruise control. But at this point: I hate driving without these things. They are an almost indescribable upgrade to the driving experience for me.
belter 4y ago
The 5% is the rest of Owl...

by blhack 4y ago

tomca32 4y ago

I was really disappointed with the service area though. I was hoping it would be available as you say "in Phoenix", but it's only available in Chandler which is just one suburb south-east of Phoenix. Service has been this way since it was introduced a few years ago. I really expected them to expand by now.

gambiting 4y ago

Yes, a do you not find yourself anxious about the remaining 5%? I've seen FSD do some batshit insane stuff on the road that even a geriatric blind driver wouldn't do. And it's not like you have any time to react either, like, you have to take over the steering NOW because the car decided to just give up in the middle of an intersection.

adoxyz 4y ago
Not at all, because I know that if the driving conditions change and I have a feeling the car won't do well, I take over. In other instances, where I know the car is going to do just fine, like driving on the freeway, I enable it. FSD/Autonomous driving isn't an all or nothing scenario for me. I use it when I deem it safe to be used, and drive manually every other time.
blhack 4y ago
The remaining 5% are almost all situations where I take over because I’m underestimating what the car is capable of. For instance: I don’t like how close it drives to the curb. I don’t drive close to the curb (and bias towards the center of a road) because I only have two eyes, and can’t really see the curb as I’m moving. I have an intuitive sense of how close I am, but that’s it. The car knows exactly how close I am. So it driving in the center of a lame, while it makes me nervous because it’s now how I drive, is perfectly acceptable. What I wish Tesla would do: set up some closed courses for people to come and experience what FSD is actually capable of. It would help the current FSD users gain confidence in the system, and it would show it off to people who haven’t ever experienced it. I seriously don’t believe that most of the people who are critical of this thing have spent much time with it. I’ll admit after the first day or so I was skeptical too, in the same way I was skeptical of lane keeping and proximity aware cruise control. But at this point: I hate driving without these things. They are an almost indescribable upgrade to the driving experience for me.

belter 4y ago

The 5% is the rest of Owl...