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Very cool stuff, I feel like I need to definitely learn Kotlin more now Swift + Kotlin + Java + C + JS + Lisp + C++ should have you covered for most things

Larrikin 4y ago
Can Rust replace C or C++ yet, atleast for green field projects? Never liked either in school but always felt bad never getting into low level code after my systems classes. Hoping I could just learn Rust one day instead.
- mamcx 4y ago
  Totally, and could even be for old projects too. Is more a problem of will and commitment. The pace of Rust is increasing, and anyway for the things is not possible to change right now Rust interacting with C/C++ is less hairy than other langs FFI...
- travisgriggs 4y ago
  I wasn’t under the impression that Rust is all there for embedded micros? I know some people have proven it can be done, but when I go to work with the latest Atmel/MicroChip/Nordic/STM chips, the tools normalized are C tool chains. To use Rust, I’d have to blaze paths. Frankly I’m more intrigued by upython for some (but not all) of the embedded work I do.
  - ostenning 4y ago
    Depends which embedded microcontroller. Some are very well supported, e.g: https://github.com/stm32-rs/stm32h7xx-hal https://github.com/stm32-rs/stm32h7xx-hal
- klabb3 4y ago
  I've worked with both Rust and Go quite a bit, but not professionally with C or C++. Those two cover a lot of potential green field stuff, like networking, CLI, embedded, etc (maybe not games/graphics as much). Rust is significantly harder to pick up, so check out Go if you haven't already considered it. Most people become productive quickly. That said, much of what you learn in Rust is generally useful for understanding, so it depends on what your goal is.
  - kaba0 4y ago
    But then why Go? Kotlin, java, c# etc fills the exact same niche.
- grayrest 4y ago
  > Can Rust replace C or C++ yet, atleast for green field projects? Mozilla has been replacing parts of Firefox C++ with Rust for a decade. They recently celebrated Rust hitting 25% of the LoC in the main repo. More broadly, serious code at large companies is written in Rust: A chunk of Google's Fuchsia OS, Dropbox's storage engine, Amazon's VM manager, etc. There are niches where C/C++ are better suited but in general Rust is good for whatever if the team wants to use it.
  - genuine_smiles 4y ago
    > There are niches where C/C++ are better suited What niches?
    - kaba0 4y ago
      Probably some embedded stuff on some obscure hardware, or where special tooling is required. Do note that these languages have been around for decades, so change doesn’t come overnight. C++ still has its uses.
    - snaileny 4y ago
      Game development.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Only in some domains, if you do anything in graphics or GUI related, be prepared to be a contributor to the ecosystem.

Larrikin 4y ago

Can Rust replace C or C++ yet, atleast for green field projects? Never liked either in school but always felt bad never getting into low level code after my systems classes. Hoping I could just learn Rust one day instead.

mamcx 4y ago
Totally, and could even be for old projects too. Is more a problem of will and commitment. The pace of Rust is increasing, and anyway for the things is not possible to change right now Rust interacting with C/C++ is less hairy than other langs FFI...
travisgriggs 4y ago
I wasn’t under the impression that Rust is all there for embedded micros? I know some people have proven it can be done, but when I go to work with the latest Atmel/MicroChip/Nordic/STM chips, the tools normalized are C tool chains. To use Rust, I’d have to blaze paths. Frankly I’m more intrigued by upython for some (but not all) of the embedded work I do.
- ostenning 4y ago
  Depends which embedded microcontroller. Some are very well supported, e.g: https://github.com/stm32-rs/stm32h7xx-hal https://github.com/stm32-rs/stm32h7xx-hal
klabb3 4y ago
I've worked with both Rust and Go quite a bit, but not professionally with C or C++. Those two cover a lot of potential green field stuff, like networking, CLI, embedded, etc (maybe not games/graphics as much). Rust is significantly harder to pick up, so check out Go if you haven't already considered it. Most people become productive quickly. That said, much of what you learn in Rust is generally useful for understanding, so it depends on what your goal is.
- kaba0 4y ago
  But then why Go? Kotlin, java, c# etc fills the exact same niche.
grayrest 4y ago
> Can Rust replace C or C++ yet, atleast for green field projects? Mozilla has been replacing parts of Firefox C++ with Rust for a decade. They recently celebrated Rust hitting 25% of the LoC in the main repo. More broadly, serious code at large companies is written in Rust: A chunk of Google's Fuchsia OS, Dropbox's storage engine, Amazon's VM manager, etc. There are niches where C/C++ are better suited but in general Rust is good for whatever if the team wants to use it.
- genuine_smiles 4y ago
  > There are niches where C/C++ are better suited What niches?
  - kaba0 4y ago
    Probably some embedded stuff on some obscure hardware, or where special tooling is required. Do note that these languages have been around for decades, so change doesn’t come overnight. C++ still has its uses.
  - snaileny 4y ago
    Game development.
pjmlp 4y ago
Only in some domains, if you do anything in graphics or GUI related, be prepared to be a contributor to the ecosystem.