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> meaning a scholar of Sanskrit or something else? I studied Sanskrit for 5 years in middle school, so I'm familiar with more than the basics. > Optimist in wh

> meaning a scholar of Sanskrit or something else? I studied Sanskrit for 5 years in middle school, so I'm familiar with more than the basics. > Optimist in what sense The one who wants to see a script for PIE discovered :)

robinsoh 5y ago
> The one who wants to see a script for PIE discovered :) I didn't quite understand. Is this related to what the article says: " The discovery of a civilization of people who lived before the Vedic people upended the story of India. Given that it undermines their claims of indigeneity, proponents of Hindutva — the most mainstream strain of Hindu nationalism — balk at the theory of a pre-Vedic civilization, even as evidence for it accumulates across disciplines, including archaeology, genetics, and linguistics. " Is Sanskrit and Hindutva and PIE related?
- mcswell 5y ago
  Hindutva is a political ideology; Sanskrit and PIE (Proto-Indo-European) were languages, with Sanskrit attested in written form (including an ancient grammar!), but PIE not attested--only reconstructed from the daughter Indo-European languages, Sanskrit being one of them. Sanskrit being rather old, it's closer to PIE than any of today's IE languages; it's very roughly contemporaneous with ancient Greek and Hittite, which are also IE languages.
  - humility 5y ago
    Tsakonian Greek :)
- humility 5y ago
  I don't know how Hindutva is related to this discussion. I'm just interested in this from a coherence point of view. I believe that learning a super language like PIE would help me understand a lot about human relation to language and vice versa.
  - robinsoh 5y ago
    The article mentioned Hindutva as I pasted. If I understand correctly, Hindutva people have a vested interest to want this script to be Sanskrit related as opposed to an indigenous Indian language. Is that correct?
    - humility 5y ago
      > If I understand correctly, Hindutva people have a vested interest to want this .... Don't know, don't care about this 40 year old concept as much as I do for a 5000 year proto language.

robinsoh 5y ago

> The one who wants to see a script for PIE discovered :) I didn't quite understand. Is this related to what the article says: " The discovery of a civilization of people who lived before the Vedic people upended the story of India. Given that it undermines their claims of indigeneity, proponents of Hindutva — the most mainstream strain of Hindu nationalism — balk at the theory of a pre-Vedic civilization, even as evidence for it accumulates across disciplines, including archaeology, genetics, and linguistics. " Is Sanskrit and Hindutva and PIE related?

mcswell 5y ago
Hindutva is a political ideology; Sanskrit and PIE (Proto-Indo-European) were languages, with Sanskrit attested in written form (including an ancient grammar!), but PIE not attested--only reconstructed from the daughter Indo-European languages, Sanskrit being one of them. Sanskrit being rather old, it's closer to PIE than any of today's IE languages; it's very roughly contemporaneous with ancient Greek and Hittite, which are also IE languages.
- humility 5y ago
  Tsakonian Greek :)
humility 5y ago
I don't know how Hindutva is related to this discussion. I'm just interested in this from a coherence point of view. I believe that learning a super language like PIE would help me understand a lot about human relation to language and vice versa.
- robinsoh 5y ago
  The article mentioned Hindutva as I pasted. If I understand correctly, Hindutva people have a vested interest to want this script to be Sanskrit related as opposed to an indigenous Indian language. Is that correct?
  - humility 5y ago
    > If I understand correctly, Hindutva people have a vested interest to want this .... Don't know, don't care about this 40 year old concept as much as I do for a 5000 year proto language.