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Not correct. Here is the official source: https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2021-12-31-Current-COVID-19-Risk-in-Ontario-by-Vaccination

Not correct. Here is the official source: https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2021-12-31-Current-COVID-19-Risk-in-Ontario-by-Vaccination-Status.png https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2... Please cite your sources.

peteradio 5y ago
That is all people lumped together. Like I said remove "at-risk".
- middleclick 5y ago
  Cool. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-s... Which groups are not "at-risk" here? What age? Because it seems like there is a significant % of the population in groups other than 80+ that are in the hospital.
  - peteradio 5y ago
    Under 50 has 20% of ICU cases (how many are incidental and without comorbidity?).
    - middleclick 5y ago
      You are the one who made the claim that age is relevant to this when it is not as if the ICUs are full, it impacts everyone. So maybe find the source and share it here since you are the one who made the argument? Burden of proof is on you, not me.
      - grepfru_it 5y ago
        You don't need to share your results, but try to find the answer to that question. I have done so and it's a terrible uphill battle and, for most data points, left only to anecdotal evidence. In my case I was looking for covid case data in children broken down by age. The only data I found was over 18 and under 18. It wasn't until recently when 0-4, 5-12 and 12-18 age group data was shared. So while I understand your point, it's doing a disservice to the actual problem at hand and thats enabling others to make advised choices.
      - peteradio 5y ago
        middleclick 5y ago
        peteradio 5y ago
        dang 5y ago
        Please do not post flamewar comments to HN, and please omit personal swipes from your posts here. We've had to ask you this more than once before. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        dang 5y ago
        You posted a bunch of flamewar comments in this thread, and have broken the site guidelines in other ways too. That's not cool, and we ban accounts that do it. I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on, we'd appreciate it.
torstenvl 5y ago
Your link does not address age-specific hospitalization effects of vaccination. As a result, it is non-responsive to the GP's position. If you posted the wrong link and meant to post one that addresses GP's point of view, would you mind fixing the link? On the other hand, on the off chance it was intentional, please try to engage with more honesty and more in good faith.
- middleclick 5y ago
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    - middleclick 5y ago
      - torstenvl 5y ago
        I'm feeling more and more confident that your comments are intentionally snide and personal, so I'm going to bow out. Happy New Year to you and I hope 2022 brings you much joy and happiness.
        middleclick 5y ago
        dang 5y ago
        Please do not propagate flamewars on HN. We don't want this kind of thing here. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

peteradio 5y ago

That is all people lumped together. Like I said remove "at-risk".

middleclick 5y ago
Cool. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-s... Which groups are not "at-risk" here? What age? Because it seems like there is a significant % of the population in groups other than 80+ that are in the hospital.
- peteradio 5y ago
  Under 50 has 20% of ICU cases (how many are incidental and without comorbidity?).
  - middleclick 5y ago
    You are the one who made the claim that age is relevant to this when it is not as if the ICUs are full, it impacts everyone. So maybe find the source and share it here since you are the one who made the argument? Burden of proof is on you, not me.
    - grepfru_it 5y ago
      You don't need to share your results, but try to find the answer to that question. I have done so and it's a terrible uphill battle and, for most data points, left only to anecdotal evidence. In my case I was looking for covid case data in children broken down by age. The only data I found was over 18 and under 18. It wasn't until recently when 0-4, 5-12 and 12-18 age group data was shared. So while I understand your point, it's doing a disservice to the actual problem at hand and thats enabling others to make advised choices.
    - peteradio 5y ago
      - middleclick 5y ago
        peteradio 5y ago
        dang 5y ago
        Please do not post flamewar comments to HN, and please omit personal swipes from your posts here. We've had to ask you this more than once before. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        dang 5y ago
        You posted a bunch of flamewar comments in this thread, and have broken the site guidelines in other ways too. That's not cool, and we ban accounts that do it. I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on, we'd appreciate it.

torstenvl 5y ago

Your link does not address age-specific hospitalization effects of vaccination. As a result, it is non-responsive to the GP's position. If you posted the wrong link and meant to post one that addresses GP's point of view, would you mind fixing the link? On the other hand, on the off chance it was intentional, please try to engage with more honesty and more in good faith.

middleclick 5y ago
- torstenvl 5y ago
  - middleclick 5y ago
    - torstenvl 5y ago
      I'm feeling more and more confident that your comments are intentionally snide and personal, so I'm going to bow out. Happy New Year to you and I hope 2022 brings you much joy and happiness.
      - middleclick 5y ago
        dang 5y ago
        Please do not propagate flamewars on HN. We don't want this kind of thing here. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.