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Sen. Joe Manchin says no to $2T bill: ‘I can’t vote for it’
- DennisAleynikov 5y agoManchin demonstrating once again that we do live in a democracy, at least a representative one.
- thghtihadanacct 5y ago... And its clear who Manchin represents
- DennisAleynikov 5y agohis voter base. indeed, very obvious
- thghtihadanacct 5y agoThis voter base? https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/12/21/business/coal-miners-joe-manchin/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/12/21/business/coal-miners-joe-...
- astrange 5y agoHe represents his voters. Leftists (despite being right about BBB being good) never seem to realize that other people literally disagree with them and don't want BBB. They don't believe it would be good for them, nor do they care. I still think something with the name will pass though.
- marricks 5y agoIt’s funny because he argued for a year saying he would if he got A, gets it, then says he needs B… on and on until like L then when its finally in front of him to vote he acts like he never could anyways. People like this are the skeeziest. Then again, there seems to always need to be 1 democrat who will stand in the way of getting things done everyday people want. It was Joe Lieberman when democrats last had the senate. Who knows what the senate leaders would actually allow to happen but it’s easier to have all that hate on one Joe.
- votepaunchy 5y agoManchin and Schumer signed an agreement on July 28, which the Congressional Democrats completely ignored. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/30/manchin-proposed-15t-topline-number-to-schumer-this-summer-514803 https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/30/manchin-proposed-15...
- xqcgrek2 5y agoJoe Manchin is taking the hit for a lot of other Democrats would would vote against this insane irresponsible bill, but can't let their intensions be publicly known. It was a foregone conclusion this bill would fail in this way once it was split up from the real infrastructure bill.
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- mikeheaton 5y agoI'm scandalized!
- DennisAleynikov 5y agowhat kind of bot even is this, gosh
- the_only_law 5y agoI’m not even sure they’re a bot, I’ve seen low effort trolls pop up all over the site now, usually quickly killed off. The most curious case, was an [banned] account making comments like this with a 10 year tenure. I’m not sure if they were posting unhinged crap for 10 years, or if they at some point were relatively benign until losing it for some reason.
- throwawaygh 5y agoor the account owner isn't the person posting. HN doesn't have a captcha for login attempts and there are probably lots of shared user/pass combos (or just easy to guess passes).
- dang 5y ago"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead." a.k.a. please don't feed the trolls https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- syki 5y agoDemocratic senators represent 40 million more people than Republican senators and their agenda can't be passed. The last time Republican senators represented more than half the population was 1996. Rural, low population states have far too much power in the present system. This is not sustainable. I know Manchin is nominally a Democrat but it's not him that is blocking the legislation it is him and all 50 Republican senators (Sinema from Arizona). https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/02/gop-senators-havent-represented-a-majority-since-1996.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/02/gop-senators-havent-...
- DennisAleynikov 5y agopopulation density isn't how our legislature is set up. not sure why people always bring this incredibly irrelevant statistic up.
- vanviegen 5y ago'incredibly irrelevant'? Wow...
- DennisAleynikov 5y agoyes, the opinions of 40million "more" americans are irrelevant in a country where 330million reside. its a big territory with a lot of different laws, borders and voting districts. gerrymandering is the enemy not the electoral college itself. in a similar vein people brought up that democrats got more individual votes and "won" the popular vote in 2016. again cool? but completely irrelevant.
- syki 5y agoIt’s not irrelevant if a majority consistently feel their will is ignored. It’s not irrelevant if it leads to widespread discontent. The system set up 250 years ago is no longer sustainable. It’s needs to be changed.
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- karlshea 5y agoIt’s $2T over 9 years. Meanwhile the senate passed another $768 billion defense bill, which is about $7T over the same time period, without even a blink. Manchin had no issue voting for the later, so all his posturing about the former seems pretty hollow.
- tacosbane 5y agoThe Democrats have 49 seats in the Senate! They should be able to do whatever they want!
- votepaunchy 5y agoThere are 48 Democratic Party senators and 50 in their caucus.
- tacosbane 5y agoOh well that's different...
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