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I feel this in my own life, as an European grown up mostly around my mother, sister, and younger female cousins. My father lived abroad for long periods of time
by akyoan 5y ago
I feel this in my own life, as an European grown up mostly around my mother, sister, and younger female cousins. My father lived abroad for long periods of time.
Women nowadays keep assuming I'm gay due to my mannerisms.
- canadianfella 5y agoA European not “an”.
- eesmith 5y agohttps://notalwaysright.com/a-gender-fluid-household/157967/ https://notalwaysright.com/a-gender-fluid-household/157967/ . Short version: 11 year old living only with women picked up practices about how to wear at towel, what to shave, wearing mascara, etc. that his mother's boyfriend both supports and gently points out they are typically gendered.
- dahfizz 5y agoThis strikes me as very strange... How did the mom not realize that her kid was shaving his legs and wearing mascara? I guess it would be one thing if the kid was doing it with intention, but he clearly wasn't. How did she never talk to her son about that?
- eesmith 5y agoDon't forget bias error. The linked-to site gets contributions from around the world. There's 45 million mothers in the US, so source population of about 100 million mothers. If 0.1% of families have no other male presence that's 100K families. If 0.01% of these mothers don't notice [1], that's still 10 families. And it's the unusual which make it to sites like these. ("When dog bites man, it's not news. But when man bites dog, now that is news!") [1] Or it could be the mother didn't know how to bring it up, or thought she was being supportive of her son's choices.
- anotherman554 5y agoI feel like if the boy went to school with male students the other boys would make fun of him until he conformed to the standard behavior, or until he decided he didn't care if people made fun of him.
- johnisgood 5y agoWell, there's a growing trend against bullying. Personally, bullying toughened me up, and it affected me in ways that I am glad for. Of course it could have gone wrong, too.
- nefitty 5y agoI couldn't use chapstick in elementary school because of the relentless bullying it inevitably triggered. Not just toward me, but any male that dared to hydrate his lips. That sort of reaction made me super averse toward any sort of preening-type of behavior, lest I be perceived as feminine. Even now, I'm more comfortable if I look at least a little unkempt, as if I work outside with my hands or something. I consciously know it's dumb, but my wife expresses preferences for that unkemptness in me as well.
- selimthegrim 5y agoDid any of these kids ever chop wood outside in the winter or hunt?
- animal_spirits 5y agoThat was a fun read
- selimthegrim 5y agoGendered in the West maybe. Plenty of men in Pakistan and Afghanistan wear kohl, dye their beard with henna, stroll hand in hand etc.
- eesmith 5y agoSure. But this story is clearly labeled "Australia", and Pakistan and Afghanistan have their own gender-based customs. So your point is .... that gender practices are not universal? I mean, growing up in the US I heard about how French women didn't shave their armpits. As an Italian example, Sophia Loren - https://fineartamerica.com/featured/sophia-loren-on-a-poster-yuri-tomashevi.html https://fineartamerica.com/featured/sophia-loren-on-a-poster... . So it's not like these have been universal Western practices even in my lifetime.
- danbolt 5y agoThis is the best anime I've ever watched.