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GOAT isn't obscure or domain specific and is a very common acronym used online for almost anything competitive and doesn't need any more explanation.

by MVorlm 5y ago

magpi3 5y ago
Obviously it did in this case. I think the use of GOAT is common in the U.S. but not elsewhere, and HN draws an international community.
- nvarsj 5y ago
  It’s common in esports, internationally.
  - l33t2328 5y ago
    It’s common in all sports internationally.
scbrg 5y ago
My apologies. I'd never seen it, and since it was in the context of chess, I included that in my searches. There was lots of information about cheese, and lots of questions about who the GOAT was, but not what it meant. Interestingly, my comment got a handful of upvotes before it was modded to oblivion, so apparently I wasn't alone in not knowing this very common acronym. I'll try to be more American next time I'm on the Internet.
- OrderlyTiamat 5y ago
  That is actually an amusing but interesting failure mode for search, linking "GOAT" to "goat" and "chess" to "cheese" is pretty natural, but totally misleading in this case. I wonder if there's a good solution (for google/ddg/etc users) for that beyond just putting everything in quotation marks, as that doesn't seem to help much anymore.
  - skinkestek 5y ago
    We could point it out and pester Google employees with how dumb it has become in every discussion where it is brought up. I've been doing this for a while and it now seems I'm getting some support. The last few years however I have given up Google and after using DDG for a few years I'm now testing out Kagi and I am happy to say that not only is the business model much better aligned with me as a user, but the results also seems to be significantly better than both Google and DDG now.
  - beermonster 5y ago
    I hadn’t heard of the term before but since it was in all caps I searched for ‘GOAT acronym’ and the first match was on the money. Obviously searching for goat is going to find lots of stuff about goats.
simion314 5y ago
>GOAT isn't obscure or domain specific and is a very common acronym used online for almost anything competitive and doesn't need any more explanation. I learned this only a month ago, I am wondering if this is a new thing? I am not from US so maybe this term is used a lot on TV/radio/speech but not used as much in writing(blogs,news not sure about social media/memes) so it could explain why I never known about this until recently.
- maxiepoo 5y ago
  I think it's been popularized by the NBA fandom and the incessant Lebron James vs Michael Jordan debates.
  - simion314 5y ago
    So I only had 1 contact with this and it was indeed about sport , something like "football player X is the GOAT" and I had to have this explained to me. so it might be a sports only term, since I am not watching or reading sports then it makes sense I do not see it used.

GOAT isn't obscure or domain specific and is a very common acronym used online for almost anything competitive and doesn't need any more explanation.

by MVorlm 5y ago

GOAT isn't obscure or domain specific and is a very common acronym used online for almost anything competitive and doesn't need any more explanation.

magpi3 5y ago

Obviously it did in this case. I think the use of GOAT is common in the U.S. but not elsewhere, and HN draws an international community.

nvarsj 5y ago
It’s common in esports, internationally.
- l33t2328 5y ago
  It’s common in all sports internationally.

scbrg 5y ago

My apologies. I'd never seen it, and since it was in the context of chess, I included that in my searches. There was lots of information about cheese, and lots of questions about who the GOAT was, but not what it meant. Interestingly, my comment got a handful of upvotes before it was modded to oblivion, so apparently I wasn't alone in not knowing this very common acronym. I'll try to be more American next time I'm on the Internet.

OrderlyTiamat 5y ago
That is actually an amusing but interesting failure mode for search, linking "GOAT" to "goat" and "chess" to "cheese" is pretty natural, but totally misleading in this case. I wonder if there's a good solution (for google/ddg/etc users) for that beyond just putting everything in quotation marks, as that doesn't seem to help much anymore.
- skinkestek 5y ago
  We could point it out and pester Google employees with how dumb it has become in every discussion where it is brought up. I've been doing this for a while and it now seems I'm getting some support. The last few years however I have given up Google and after using DDG for a few years I'm now testing out Kagi and I am happy to say that not only is the business model much better aligned with me as a user, but the results also seems to be significantly better than both Google and DDG now.
- beermonster 5y ago
  I hadn’t heard of the term before but since it was in all caps I searched for ‘GOAT acronym’ and the first match was on the money. Obviously searching for goat is going to find lots of stuff about goats.

simion314 5y ago

>GOAT isn't obscure or domain specific and is a very common acronym used online for almost anything competitive and doesn't need any more explanation. I learned this only a month ago, I am wondering if this is a new thing? I am not from US so maybe this term is used a lot on TV/radio/speech but not used as much in writing(blogs,news not sure about social media/memes) so it could explain why I never known about this until recently.

maxiepoo 5y ago
I think it's been popularized by the NBA fandom and the incessant Lebron James vs Michael Jordan debates.
- simion314 5y ago
  So I only had 1 contact with this and it was indeed about sport , something like "football player X is the GOAT" and I had to have this explained to me. so it might be a sports only term, since I am not watching or reading sports then it makes sense I do not see it used.