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I brew coffee using what's IMO the ultimate moka pot: the Alessi 9090. It's designed by Richard Sapper who also designed the first ThinkPad. I still think a pr
by brainlessdev 5y ago
I brew coffee using what's IMO the ultimate moka pot: the Alessi 9090. It's designed by Richard Sapper who also designed the first ThinkPad.
I still think a proper espresso machine produces better... espressos, but in my tiny apartment the moka pot is a great alternative. There's certainly a fair bit of technique involved, so you probably won't produce your best coffee on the first go.
- martin_balsam 5y agoAnd this is the ultimate HN answer. Even in a thread about coffee, it must mention ThinkPads But I also have the same moka. It’s good
- vanderZwan 5y agoTo be fair, it's like a combination of their two favorite things
- kingcharles 5y agoIf you go on the ThinkPad forums all they talk about is Moka Pots. It's turtles all the way down!
- fartcannon 5y agoIt's not the ultimate thread, though, until someone mentions that ThinkPads are made by Lenovo who got caught including spyware in their laptops. That reply will get at least 2 replies that say, 'yah but never in the thinkpad lineup'
- znpy 5y agoyeah but never in the thinkpad lineup
- pell 5y agoyah but never in the thinkpad lineup
- jlkuester7 5y agoyah but never in the thinkpad lineup
- bch 5y agoI believe the 9090 doesn’t usually have a red flourish, but this[0] anniversary edition does, and if you look at other Sapper work[1] you’ll see how the red highlight, like the track point[2] seems to fit into a theme of his he works into various products. [0] https://www.finnishdesignshop.com/design-stories/classic/alessi-espresso-makers-9090-and-la-conica https://www.finnishdesignshop.com/design-stories/classic/ale... [1] https://www.artemide.com/en/subfamily/18869/tizio https://www.artemide.com/en/subfamily/18869/tizio [2] https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2015/01/08/thinkpad-history/index.html https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2015/01/08/thinkpad...
- hosteur 5y agoTo save anyone from googling this https://eu.alessi.com/products/9090-espresso-coffee-maker https://eu.alessi.com/products/9090-espresso-coffee-maker
- sam_lowry_ 5y agoThe problem with traditional moka pots is that they can not be used on induction stoves. As people move from gaz to induction, they abandon Bialetti and Alessi gadgets.
- Flashtoo 5y agoYou can just use the ones suitable for induction stoves, though? I love my Bialetti induction moka pot.
- imbnwa 5y agoAdapters also exist, which I use
- GuB-42 5y agoFrom what I've seen, stainless steel Bialettis (what you need for induction) are not the original "made in Italy". Not that it is necessarily a bad thing, but there is little point sticking with the Bialetti brand if you want an induction moka pot.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoI've found that you have to use less heat on them so that the coffee extracts slower than the traditional bialetti and the "knockoff" that I bought was about as good. With similar heat I coudl tell just by the color it wasn't extracting the same
- WastingMyTime89 5y agoGenerally you want to use as little heat as possible when brewing with a moka pot. The most common issue people have with them is bitter coffee caused by burning their ground. The usual advice is to boil the water before filling and chilling as soon as the pot starts bubbling. From my point of view, if what you are looking for is a very finicky way of making coffee, you have two options: a cheap moka pot or an expensive coffee machine. Then again, I do have a Silvia. Finicky has a certain appeal.
- bch 5y agoHow’s long have you been using it? How do you like it as a daily driver? If the handle/latch stays tight, it certainly does improve on the twist/twist/twist/twist… of (eg) Bialetti pots.
- brainlessdev 5y agoThree months only, but without a doubt it's the best moka I've had. As a daily driver it's great: - For some reason it succeeds at temperatures lower than other mokas I've had, which is good for the taste as well as for energy savings and the life expectancy of the rubber piece. - It doesn't drip! All mokas I've had dripped at some point. - It doesn't have a plastic handle that will melt if you forget to turn off the stove (yup I've done this). I'm comparing it to an IKEA moka and several Bialetti mokas. Not fair in terms of price.
- malermeister 5y agoIf you want actual espresso without using much more space, check out the wacaco picopresso. Super happy with it
- avereveard 5y agoI prefer Giannina's - they're steel as well and the lock mechanism is wonderfully solid. In my family we had exactly 3: one at my grandparents', one at my parents', and one at my house. The 3-6 cup filter is a nice touch for when people comes over for dinner.
- dugditches 5y agoI thought $200 for the Thinkpad Designer's was expensive. Then I saw the price of the Giannina. I'm sure the locking mechanism and aesthetics are much better, and they're a pleasure to use. But something about a $10 thrift store moka pot works well. And no qualms about taking it on a camping trip, to use over a fire.
- avereveard 5y ago> 200$ idk here even on amazon it's like 60eur new. anyway, I'd bring a Giannina over a campfire than any aluminium thrift moka. sure bottom will blacken a little externally, but ours lasted so long they all eventually blackened outside anyway.
- _ZeD_ 5y agowhat? a giannina is about 60€. and I assure you they last a lifetime (my parents still use one of them daily from before I was born, 40 years ago)
- et-al 5y agoMay you share where? From a cursory glance, US retailers only sell them for 1.5x the price: ~120 USD
- avereveard 5y agoJust randomly found one at 99 here https://us.consiglioskitchenware.com/collections/giannina-espresso-makers/products/giannina-1-cup-stainless-steel-stovetop-espresso-maker-sale-1 https://us.consiglioskitchenware.com/collections/giannina-es... (buyer beware I don't know the details) seems a fair price for the import costs. The 60€ price I mentioned was from the Italian Amazon.