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Personally I dislike this bit. Thinness isn't everything, but it's something. I don't know that the new models really needed to look as brick-ish as they do, an

by beaner 5y ago

Personally I dislike this bit. Thinness isn't everything, but it's something. I don't know that the new models really needed to look as brick-ish as they do, and the previous design was certainly sexier.

hardwaregeek 5y ago
Yeah like I get that Apple went too far but thinness is a really important quality. People love thin, sleek objects. For the average consumer that may be a bigger factor than an SD card reader.
Hamuko 5y ago
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the new design. That being said, I really, really want one.
oleganza 5y ago
Speaking of backpacks, I was expecting that M1 energy effeciency would allow for less weight to carry rather than +10 hours of standalone time. A few hours of life, but 0.5 kg less weight would be a better tradeoff for me. (I'm talking weight, not thinness. A thicker body with better heat dispersion is fine, as long as extra space is taken up by air.)
- lowbloodsugar 5y ago
  21 hours when watching movies. When doing real work, I get a good five hours out of my MacBook Air, whereas I'd get maybe one hour out of my Dell. If you actually have work to do, and you're stuck in the arse end of a coffee shop or airport, then you can still do meaningful work for hours.
dkjaudyeqooe 5y ago
I agree. For me thinness is portability and that is very important. I'm willing to trade quite a bit of performance for that.
spicybright 5y ago
I actually like the throwback, personally. I'm guessing they did that to differentiate it in the market. What I have trouble getting over is the flipping notch to the top. Just why. The bezel on my 2019 macbook looks the same, if not skinnier. Do people really not watch fullscreen videos anymore or something?
- Hamuko 5y ago
  >Do people really not watch fullscreen videos anymore or something? How many of the videos you watch are taller than 16:10? Are any of them even taller than 16:9?
  - aidenn0 5y ago
    ... All 4:3 videos are taller than 16:9 certainly, and there's a non-trivial number of those.
    - spicybright 5y ago
      Absolutely. I run into this all the time with my phone's screen (likely a different ratio, but I almost never have it not cover video. If there's a program that will literally add black padding until the notch goes away I'd probably use it, at least when watching media.
      - jrochkind1 5y ago
        Reports are the OS already does this for you when watching fullscreen media. Apparently Apple still has some design sense after all.
      - lowbloodsugar 5y ago
        There is. It's called macOs. The screen is 16:10 and then the menu bar, with the notch is extra space on top of that. I can't even be frustrated with you. This is so humanity. "I hate what they did! If only they had done this instead!" They did do that. They talk about that a lot. The article talks about that. They solved the problem in a way so obvious that it's what random people on the internet come up with, but of course the same random people on the internet are so convinced of their own superiority and so sure of Apple's inferiority and also unable to read TFA.
madeofpalk 5y ago
This is why you have a full product line, right? You can make one laptop that prioritises weight and thinness, and you can make another one that prioritises power, features, etc. The problem with the previous Macbook product line was that all products had the same compromises. Design purity, and thinness over everything else. There was no choice for a "pro" machine that had a different set of tradeoffs to achieve pro features.
- beaner 5y ago
  I'm just asking for a tapered edge :D The new bulbous rounded edges almost seem passive-aggressive from apple. Yes, prioritize power, and with whatever remaining ability to make things pretty that you have, utilize it. When you can but don't, that's unattractive. Is there a specific reason for the brick look? I'm not sure that we know there is.
  - intpx 5y ago
    I'd say that given no teardowns have yet been released, its also true that we know there isn't a specific reason for the brick look. They crammed a lot of battery in there, big, slow, quiet fans, six speakers, and the SoC is something like 4x larger than the base M1.
  - bombcar 5y ago
    I think the rounded looks nice, but it is unbalanced compared to the top - the thing should be MORE brackish in my opinion.

by beaner 5y ago

hardwaregeek 5y ago

Yeah like I get that Apple went too far but thinness is a really important quality. People love thin, sleek objects. For the average consumer that may be a bigger factor than an SD card reader.

Hamuko 5y ago

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the new design. That being said, I really, really want one.

oleganza 5y ago

Speaking of backpacks, I was expecting that M1 energy effeciency would allow for less weight to carry rather than +10 hours of standalone time. A few hours of life, but 0.5 kg less weight would be a better tradeoff for me. (I'm talking weight, not thinness. A thicker body with better heat dispersion is fine, as long as extra space is taken up by air.)

lowbloodsugar 5y ago
21 hours when watching movies. When doing real work, I get a good five hours out of my MacBook Air, whereas I'd get maybe one hour out of my Dell. If you actually have work to do, and you're stuck in the arse end of a coffee shop or airport, then you can still do meaningful work for hours.

dkjaudyeqooe 5y ago

I agree. For me thinness is portability and that is very important. I'm willing to trade quite a bit of performance for that.

spicybright 5y ago

I actually like the throwback, personally. I'm guessing they did that to differentiate it in the market. What I have trouble getting over is the flipping notch to the top. Just why. The bezel on my 2019 macbook looks the same, if not skinnier. Do people really not watch fullscreen videos anymore or something?

Hamuko 5y ago
>Do people really not watch fullscreen videos anymore or something? How many of the videos you watch are taller than 16:10? Are any of them even taller than 16:9?
- aidenn0 5y ago
  ... All 4:3 videos are taller than 16:9 certainly, and there's a non-trivial number of those.
  - spicybright 5y ago
    Absolutely. I run into this all the time with my phone's screen (likely a different ratio, but I almost never have it not cover video. If there's a program that will literally add black padding until the notch goes away I'd probably use it, at least when watching media.
    - jrochkind1 5y ago
      Reports are the OS already does this for you when watching fullscreen media. Apparently Apple still has some design sense after all.
    - lowbloodsugar 5y ago
      There is. It's called macOs. The screen is 16:10 and then the menu bar, with the notch is extra space on top of that. I can't even be frustrated with you. This is so humanity. "I hate what they did! If only they had done this instead!" They did do that. They talk about that a lot. The article talks about that. They solved the problem in a way so obvious that it's what random people on the internet come up with, but of course the same random people on the internet are so convinced of their own superiority and so sure of Apple's inferiority and also unable to read TFA.

madeofpalk 5y ago

This is why you have a full product line, right? You can make one laptop that prioritises weight and thinness, and you can make another one that prioritises power, features, etc. The problem with the previous Macbook product line was that all products had the same compromises. Design purity, and thinness over everything else. There was no choice for a "pro" machine that had a different set of tradeoffs to achieve pro features.

beaner 5y ago
I'm just asking for a tapered edge :D The new bulbous rounded edges almost seem passive-aggressive from apple. Yes, prioritize power, and with whatever remaining ability to make things pretty that you have, utilize it. When you can but don't, that's unattractive. Is there a specific reason for the brick look? I'm not sure that we know there is.
- intpx 5y ago
  I'd say that given no teardowns have yet been released, its also true that we know there isn't a specific reason for the brick look. They crammed a lot of battery in there, big, slow, quiet fans, six speakers, and the SoC is something like 4x larger than the base M1.
- bombcar 5y ago
  I think the rounded looks nice, but it is unbalanced compared to the top - the thing should be MORE brackish in my opinion.