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The only disinformation I've seen about these vaccines has been from Fauci and other pro vaxxers. “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations

The only disinformation I've seen about these vaccines has been from Fauci and other pro vaxxers. “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.” - Joe Biden there was never a basis for this statement, making it clear disinformation. Grass roots research doesn't fit the bill of what that word means.

KittenInABox 5y ago
I might suggest we avoid using superlatives. I have seen disinformation about vaccines both from mainstream media presumptions that breakthrough infections won't happen at all, and also from other mainstream media publishing entire segments that the vaccine might cause infertility in women or somehow affect the fetus (a spreading of FUD basically).
- vibrato2 5y ago
  I will certainly disregard your suggestion. It's proven that the spike protein accumulates in the ovaries after vaccine injection. As the FDA claims, there is no long term data. Anecdotally I've heard many pregnancies ended from the shot. It's not FUD to be concerned about female fertility. We have no long term data and we know the spike protein accumulates in the ovaries from mRNA injections.
  - afavour 5y ago
    > A study shows the vaccine accumulating in the ovaries - False > This theory comes from a misreading of a study submitted to the Japanese regulator. The study involved giving rats a much higher dose of vaccine than that given to humans (1,333 times higher). > Only 0.1% of the total dose ended up in the animals' ovaries, 48 hours after injection. Far more - 53% after one hour and 25% after 48 hours - was found at the injection site (in humans, usually the arm). The next most common place was the liver (16% after 48 hours), which helps get rid of waste products from the blood. > And those promoting this claim cherry-picked a figure which actually referred to the concentration of fat found in the ovaries. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57552527 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57552527 "Anecdotally I've heard many pregnancies ended from the shot." No you haven't. You've heard of pregnancies ending in people that happen to also have been vaccinated but you have no proof connecting the two. The reality is that a lot more pregnancies fail than anyone cares to admit in public because couples tend to be private it about it. This is nothing new. It's heartbreaking for everyone that experiences it and anti-vaxxers latching onto it to serve their agenda is incredibly sad.
    - White_Wolf 5y ago
      I might be wrong but maybe the point is that it's not proven safe long term. While a good majority(like me) had it and it worked out well for us (risk vs reward wise), some might not be so lucky and it pissed me off that some people are like frogs in a well with a very narrow viewpoint. It's now proven that it can cause death. 1 death is more than enough to justify not having it. Neither you or anyone have the right to force people to take that risk for the benefit of others. I only took it because I covered all most my bases and my chances of survival in case of Covid were pretty bad. It wouldn't be the first time that problems appear after a long time and take ages to be proven. The most extreme example of that that I think is thalidomide. EDIT: If you are going to reduce it to a game of numbers. Some risk side effects so that the majority goes on with their lives, then... when communists were leveling a church and the houses of 500 people could use the same justification since they were building blocks of flats for 10000 people on that area it was justified?
      - zuminator 5y ago
        I've seen videos where drivers peacefully waiting at red lights were crushed by careening tractor trailers in freak accidents. Waiting at the red light literally got them killed. By your standards, we shouldn't force people to obey traffic signals since it"s proven that doing so can in rare cases lead to death.
        White_Wolf 5y ago
        "Literally" it's the trailer that killed them.
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scoutt 5y ago
> “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.” Not to defend Biden, but the vaccine decreases the probabilities of getting COVID. You still get infected with sars-cov-2, and you are probably still contagious, but it's unlikely you get COVID (as in COronaVIrus Disease, the disease produced by sars-cov-2 virus (or coronavirus), that is the thing that eventually kills you and/or jeopardizes the public health system).

KittenInABox 5y ago

I might suggest we avoid using superlatives. I have seen disinformation about vaccines both from mainstream media presumptions that breakthrough infections won't happen at all, and also from other mainstream media publishing entire segments that the vaccine might cause infertility in women or somehow affect the fetus (a spreading of FUD basically).

vibrato2 5y ago
I will certainly disregard your suggestion. It's proven that the spike protein accumulates in the ovaries after vaccine injection. As the FDA claims, there is no long term data. Anecdotally I've heard many pregnancies ended from the shot. It's not FUD to be concerned about female fertility. We have no long term data and we know the spike protein accumulates in the ovaries from mRNA injections.
- afavour 5y ago
  > A study shows the vaccine accumulating in the ovaries - False > This theory comes from a misreading of a study submitted to the Japanese regulator. The study involved giving rats a much higher dose of vaccine than that given to humans (1,333 times higher). > Only 0.1% of the total dose ended up in the animals' ovaries, 48 hours after injection. Far more - 53% after one hour and 25% after 48 hours - was found at the injection site (in humans, usually the arm). The next most common place was the liver (16% after 48 hours), which helps get rid of waste products from the blood. > And those promoting this claim cherry-picked a figure which actually referred to the concentration of fat found in the ovaries. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57552527 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57552527 "Anecdotally I've heard many pregnancies ended from the shot." No you haven't. You've heard of pregnancies ending in people that happen to also have been vaccinated but you have no proof connecting the two. The reality is that a lot more pregnancies fail than anyone cares to admit in public because couples tend to be private it about it. This is nothing new. It's heartbreaking for everyone that experiences it and anti-vaxxers latching onto it to serve their agenda is incredibly sad.
  - White_Wolf 5y ago
    I might be wrong but maybe the point is that it's not proven safe long term. While a good majority(like me) had it and it worked out well for us (risk vs reward wise), some might not be so lucky and it pissed me off that some people are like frogs in a well with a very narrow viewpoint. It's now proven that it can cause death. 1 death is more than enough to justify not having it. Neither you or anyone have the right to force people to take that risk for the benefit of others. I only took it because I covered all most my bases and my chances of survival in case of Covid were pretty bad. It wouldn't be the first time that problems appear after a long time and take ages to be proven. The most extreme example of that that I think is thalidomide. EDIT: If you are going to reduce it to a game of numbers. Some risk side effects so that the majority goes on with their lives, then... when communists were leveling a church and the houses of 500 people could use the same justification since they were building blocks of flats for 10000 people on that area it was justified?
    - zuminator 5y ago
      I've seen videos where drivers peacefully waiting at red lights were crushed by careening tractor trailers in freak accidents. Waiting at the red light literally got them killed. By your standards, we shouldn't force people to obey traffic signals since it"s proven that doing so can in rare cases lead to death.
      - White_Wolf 5y ago
        "Literally" it's the trailer that killed them.
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scoutt 5y ago

> “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.” Not to defend Biden, but the vaccine decreases the probabilities of getting COVID. You still get infected with sars-cov-2, and you are probably still contagious, but it's unlikely you get COVID (as in COronaVIrus Disease, the disease produced by sars-cov-2 virus (or coronavirus), that is the thing that eventually kills you and/or jeopardizes the public health system).