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ESR didn't get cancelled for microaggressions. It was because he has a long history of being utterly vile towards black people and women, amongst other very muc

by nmjohn 5y ago

ESR didn't get cancelled for microaggressions. It was because he has a long history of being utterly vile towards black people and women, amongst other very much not "just a microaggression" behaviors.

terracottage 5y ago
Whenever I hear this sort of second hand and third hand information, I assume it's a wild exaggeration, amplified through a whisper network. If there is something concrete to point to, with evidence, people do. In the absence of that, I assume it's just malicious gossip. Hasn't failed me yet.
- nmjohn 5y ago
  I mean, have you bothered to look? It's not a secret nor in private. Defending eugenics in the comments: https://web.archive.org/web/20210419141913/http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3974#comment-344083 https://web.archive.org/web/20210419141913/http://esr.ibibli... Claiming black people have a lower IQ than everyone else (in an argument that black people shouldn't own guns as a result): https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 Claims LGBT people are making it up: https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/769730601872044032/photo/1 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/769730601872044032/photo/1 Lots of racist comments: https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/780839196231630848/photo/1 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/780839196231630848/photo/1 This is what I could find in less than 5 minutes of searching - the receipts are there, it is not "a wild exaggeration"
  - terracottage 5y ago
    You're literally doing the thing where you rephrase things to put words in his mouth. Either you are incapable of entertaining certain thoughts dispassionately, or you're on a quest to paint him with the worst brush. Oddly, you don't seem to be aware that you're doing it. Reminds me of the Remove Stallman affair. When autism meets normies, the normies shriek and start reading moral judgements into things. e.g Black people do have a lower IQ, in aggregate, in the US. Are we supposed to pretend that's not true when it's been measured?
  - tacitusarc 5y ago
    Huh. Nothing there is overt, it all hides behind some questionable statistics, but it definitely makes me not want to have a beer with the guy.

by nmjohn 5y ago

terracottage 5y ago

Whenever I hear this sort of second hand and third hand information, I assume it's a wild exaggeration, amplified through a whisper network. If there is something concrete to point to, with evidence, people do. In the absence of that, I assume it's just malicious gossip. Hasn't failed me yet.

nmjohn 5y ago
I mean, have you bothered to look? It's not a secret nor in private. Defending eugenics in the comments: https://web.archive.org/web/20210419141913/http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3974#comment-344083 https://web.archive.org/web/20210419141913/http://esr.ibibli... Claiming black people have a lower IQ than everyone else (in an argument that black people shouldn't own guns as a result): https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 Claims LGBT people are making it up: https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/769730601872044032/photo/1 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/769730601872044032/photo/1 Lots of racist comments: https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/780839196231630848/photo/1 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/780839196231630848/photo/1 This is what I could find in less than 5 minutes of searching - the receipts are there, it is not "a wild exaggeration"
- terracottage 5y ago
  You're literally doing the thing where you rephrase things to put words in his mouth. Either you are incapable of entertaining certain thoughts dispassionately, or you're on a quest to paint him with the worst brush. Oddly, you don't seem to be aware that you're doing it. Reminds me of the Remove Stallman affair. When autism meets normies, the normies shriek and start reading moral judgements into things. e.g Black people do have a lower IQ, in aggregate, in the US. Are we supposed to pretend that's not true when it's been measured?
- tacitusarc 5y ago
  Huh. Nothing there is overt, it all hides behind some questionable statistics, but it definitely makes me not want to have a beer with the guy.