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Comment section here proving once again that high IQ nerds are, when it comes to the stuff that actually matters, overtly authoritarian. You might be all for gi

by d1a2n 5y ago

Comment section here proving once again that high IQ nerds are, when it comes to the stuff that actually matters, overtly authoritarian. You might be all for giving children hormone blockers and championing the right to vote without ID, but it turns out the liberalism was just a LARP all along. I am fortunate to be in a position where my livelihood is not being threatened, and I will never get an unnecessary medical procedure to satisfy either contemptible neurotics, pharma shareholders, or the government. Freedom is the freedom to say "fuck you", and I don't need to justify why, though with the facts as they currently stand, it's about the easiest thing in the world. Seethe and cope, because at the end of the day you are a slave, and I will never be.

mschuster91 5y ago
> I will never get an unnecessary medical procedure to satisfy either contemptible neurotics, pharma shareholders, or the government. One man's freedom ends where another man's begins. By not getting vaccinated against coronavirus, you are endangering yourself (which, while fine from a personal freedom point of view, still leaves society in form of either the taxpayer or your health insurance on the hook for the treatment cost should you die from it) and you are endangering others who are legitimately unable to get vaccinated (children < 12 years of age, immunosuppressed people, non-responders) with a deadly disease. And the more people get infected, the more overwhelmed hospitals get with COVID cases (especially given that the delta mutant is both more infections and more likely to cause severe, ICU-requiring distress)... which means the collective freedom of you and other people to not get vaccinated is likely to directly impact the freedom of others who are in need of an ICU bed. And then there is the immense mental and physical load that the unvaccinated severe cases of COVID put on the individual healthcare workers who are obligated by their professional ethics to treat you, no matter what. So much loss of life, of wealth, of happiness only to satisfy the radical libertarianism of the few. You know, if it were like with seatbelts where the only one you're endangering by not wearing it is yourself then I'd say go for it, see you in wherever we end up after our death - but by not vaccinating, you are part of a direct threat against everyone else.
s_dev 5y ago
>Seethe and cope, because at the end of the day you are a slave, and I will never be. Peevish attitude -- as if getting a vaccine is a deep personal choice. It's not really. It's a public health issue and like masks you protect others around you from getting disease. Ironically you depend on others doing the right thing to enjoy your little freedoms.
- ghostwriter 5y ago
  > Peevish attitude -- as if getting a vaccine is a deep personal choice. Bodily integrity is a deep personal thing. “My body, my choice” isn’t it?
  - tshaddox 5y ago
    No more so than driving drunk.
    - d1a2n 5y ago
      You'll make this analogy, but if I remind you that banning driving would save lives, you'll tell me "car accidents aren't contagious!" Your mind has been destroyed, and unfortunately there is no vaccine (remember, the definition can change).
      - revax 5y ago
        >I remind you that banning driving would save lives This is not remotely comparable, banning driving would (for most people) require changing entirely your lifestyle. Getting a shot require a couple hours.
        tshaddox 5y ago
        Banning driving would almost certainly cause more people to die for other reasons than those who currently die in automobile accidents.
      - franga2000 5y ago
musicale 5y ago
> at the end of the day you are a slave, and I will never be I prefer the term "open source project maintainer."
locallost 5y ago
A lot of people will never understand you, so don't waste your time. You should instead try with a red light, say I'm not a slave, and drive through. The light won't understand you either, but maybe you finally will.
cgrealy 5y ago
You are 100% within your rights to do so. And the rest of society is free to decide that’s a selfish position and ask you to stay away from their homes and businesses. The rest of us sheeple will just have to make do without your enlightened slaveless presence.
tshaddox 5y ago
Or some of us might be aware of the paradox of tolerance and correctly conclude that unlimited tolerance of intolerance is not the only alternative to authoritarianism.
louissm_it 5y ago
That's fine, just stay away from our towns and businesses where you can endanger people who care about each other. Your livelihood may not be threatened, mine isn't either - but you're probably threatening someone else's.
- peteradio 5y ago
  Youre in a thread talking about people with natural immunity who do not wish to get vaccinated. How is someone with natural immunity endangering you?
  - mattparcens 5y ago
    It's unfortunate that it's necessary to provide this reminder within almost every message thread. It's basically a straw man fallacy, and the fact that it's probably unintentional on the part of the committers tells you something about the single-mindedness of those doing the committing.
  - cgrealy 5y ago
    How do you know anyone has natural immunity? There are plenty of anti-vaxx conspiracy nutjobs that would happily lie about it to avoid getting improved 5G.
PoignardAzur 5y ago
> Seethe and cope, because at the end of the day you are a slave, and I will never be. See, I'm not that petty, and I mostly content myself with living in a country where hospitalization rates are at a record low thanks to vaccine mandates. I don't need to seethe or think about it that much. But if I were that petty, I think my seething and coping would be abated by the knowledge a lot of you people are dying these days, unless they can afford top-of-the-line fetus-based therapy.
- d1a2n 5y ago
  > a lot of you people are dying these days What's the death rate again?
  - hug 5y ago
    In the US, about a thousand a day averaged over the pandemic, I believe.
  - cgrealy 5y ago
    9/11 every two days. https://www.axios.com/covid-deaths-september-11-8b2b230f-9dd4-4c4c-b677-6df2be18ccc9.html https://www.axios.com/covid-deaths-september-11-8b2b230f-9dd...
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  My country has no mandates and ICU usage from Covid is under 10%. There is a policy in place that will increase measures when ICU occupancy from COVID rises to 10% - 20%.
raxxorrax 5y ago
I completely agree, although I don't really see too many "high IQ" comments here.

by d1a2n 5y ago

mschuster91 5y ago

> I will never get an unnecessary medical procedure to satisfy either contemptible neurotics, pharma shareholders, or the government. One man's freedom ends where another man's begins. By not getting vaccinated against coronavirus, you are endangering yourself (which, while fine from a personal freedom point of view, still leaves society in form of either the taxpayer or your health insurance on the hook for the treatment cost should you die from it) and you are endangering others who are legitimately unable to get vaccinated (children < 12 years of age, immunosuppressed people, non-responders) with a deadly disease. And the more people get infected, the more overwhelmed hospitals get with COVID cases (especially given that the delta mutant is both more infections and more likely to cause severe, ICU-requiring distress)... which means the collective freedom of you and other people to not get vaccinated is likely to directly impact the freedom of others who are in need of an ICU bed. And then there is the immense mental and physical load that the unvaccinated severe cases of COVID put on the individual healthcare workers who are obligated by their professional ethics to treat you, no matter what. So much loss of life, of wealth, of happiness only to satisfy the radical libertarianism of the few. You know, if it were like with seatbelts where the only one you're endangering by not wearing it is yourself then I'd say go for it, see you in wherever we end up after our death - but by not vaccinating, you are part of a direct threat against everyone else.

s_dev 5y ago

>Seethe and cope, because at the end of the day you are a slave, and I will never be. Peevish attitude -- as if getting a vaccine is a deep personal choice. It's not really. It's a public health issue and like masks you protect others around you from getting disease. Ironically you depend on others doing the right thing to enjoy your little freedoms.

ghostwriter 5y ago
> Peevish attitude -- as if getting a vaccine is a deep personal choice. Bodily integrity is a deep personal thing. “My body, my choice” isn’t it?
- tshaddox 5y ago
  No more so than driving drunk.
  - d1a2n 5y ago
    You'll make this analogy, but if I remind you that banning driving would save lives, you'll tell me "car accidents aren't contagious!" Your mind has been destroyed, and unfortunately there is no vaccine (remember, the definition can change).
    - revax 5y ago
      >I remind you that banning driving would save lives This is not remotely comparable, banning driving would (for most people) require changing entirely your lifestyle. Getting a shot require a couple hours.
      - tshaddox 5y ago
        Banning driving would almost certainly cause more people to die for other reasons than those who currently die in automobile accidents.
    - franga2000 5y ago

musicale 5y ago

> at the end of the day you are a slave, and I will never be I prefer the term "open source project maintainer."

locallost 5y ago

A lot of people will never understand you, so don't waste your time. You should instead try with a red light, say I'm not a slave, and drive through. The light won't understand you either, but maybe you finally will.

cgrealy 5y ago

You are 100% within your rights to do so. And the rest of society is free to decide that’s a selfish position and ask you to stay away from their homes and businesses. The rest of us sheeple will just have to make do without your enlightened slaveless presence.

tshaddox 5y ago

Or some of us might be aware of the paradox of tolerance and correctly conclude that unlimited tolerance of intolerance is not the only alternative to authoritarianism.

louissm_it 5y ago

That's fine, just stay away from our towns and businesses where you can endanger people who care about each other. Your livelihood may not be threatened, mine isn't either - but you're probably threatening someone else's.

peteradio 5y ago
Youre in a thread talking about people with natural immunity who do not wish to get vaccinated. How is someone with natural immunity endangering you?
- mattparcens 5y ago
  It's unfortunate that it's necessary to provide this reminder within almost every message thread. It's basically a straw man fallacy, and the fact that it's probably unintentional on the part of the committers tells you something about the single-mindedness of those doing the committing.
- cgrealy 5y ago
  How do you know anyone has natural immunity? There are plenty of anti-vaxx conspiracy nutjobs that would happily lie about it to avoid getting improved 5G.

PoignardAzur 5y ago

> Seethe and cope, because at the end of the day you are a slave, and I will never be. See, I'm not that petty, and I mostly content myself with living in a country where hospitalization rates are at a record low thanks to vaccine mandates. I don't need to seethe or think about it that much. But if I were that petty, I think my seething and coping would be abated by the knowledge a lot of you people are dying these days, unless they can afford top-of-the-line fetus-based therapy.

d1a2n 5y ago
> a lot of you people are dying these days What's the death rate again?
- hug 5y ago
  In the US, about a thousand a day averaged over the pandemic, I believe.
- cgrealy 5y ago
  9/11 every two days. https://www.axios.com/covid-deaths-september-11-8b2b230f-9dd4-4c4c-b677-6df2be18ccc9.html https://www.axios.com/covid-deaths-september-11-8b2b230f-9dd...
raxxorrax 5y ago
My country has no mandates and ICU usage from Covid is under 10%. There is a policy in place that will increase measures when ICU occupancy from COVID rises to 10% - 20%.

raxxorrax 5y ago

I completely agree, although I don't really see too many "high IQ" comments here.