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This article completely misses context behind the name Indra for a group attacking Iran. In Vedic Hindu texts, and in Zoroastrian texts, a great battle among D
by a11r 5y ago
This article completely misses context behind the name Indra for a group attacking Iran.
In Vedic Hindu texts, and in Zoroastrian texts, a great battle among Devas[1] and Asuras (Ahuras)[2] is described. In the Vedic Hindu version, the Devas won, but for some reason decided to emigrate to India. In the Zoroastrian version, the Asuras won and kicked the Devas out of Persia.
Indra was the king of the Devas. The word Deva eventually came to mean God in Sanskrit and Indra became the King of gods and God of thunder and rain.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra#Origins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra#Origins
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura_Mazda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura_Mazda
- factorialboy 5y agoThe "migration" to India theory has been generally refuted .. it's origins trace back to the English colonizers inventing history to justify their rule.
- sadfev 5y agoThey will keep shoveling Miller’s and other Indologists outdated supremacist ideas until Indians meekly submit and accept it. There’s no reasoning with supremacists.
- sadfev 5y agoMuller*
- new_guy 5y agoYou're not wrong, but that's got literally nothing at all to do with this.
- nyolfen 5y agoyou should look into population genetics. pretty weird that the same y chromosomal lineages showed up all over eurasia at the same time :o)
- factorialboy 5y agoGive me a specific reference of genetic proof of the 'aryan invasion'. And put a rough date on it. Thanks!
- nyolfen 5y agohttps://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aat7487 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aat7487 just the paper i read most recently -- the genetic and linguistic evidence for this theory is so overwhelming that the world laughs at you for believing otherwise. it is obviously too tied up with nationalist mythology and sentiment for you to analyze with a clear mind.
- factorialboy 5y agoThis is the exact type of propaganda "papers" without any evidence that the colonial types produce. There is no distinction between the "aryan invaders" and the native harrappan peoples: https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2019/09/06/new-study-debunks-aryan-invasion-theory.html https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2019/09/06/new-study-debun... Sure, some tribes may have migrated. But these tribes were not the "white civilizers" of the "dark natives" as the European colonizers wanted to promote. Too bad much of Indology is still persisting with the direction set by the English and Germans in the late 1800s.
- rishav_sharan 5y agoAryan migration is a well accepted and genetically supported theory. Would love to hear more on its refutation. https://scroll.in/article/936872/two-new-genetic-studies-upheld-aryan-migration-theory-so-why-did-indian-media-report-the-opposite https://scroll.in/article/936872/two-new-genetic-studies-uph...
- uncomputation 5y agoInteresting! I was familiar with the “deevs”/“daeva” (دیو) from the Shahnameh, but not the Vedic Hindu side of this. Thanks for sharing.