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A lot of comments are suggesting workarounds. This behaviour by Google is atrocious. They are causing massive inconvenience to some people (albeit a very small

A lot of comments are suggesting workarounds. This behaviour by Google is atrocious. They are causing massive inconvenience to some people (albeit a very small number) just because they want to show off their nice knowledge panel. Even one person's life inconvenienced is one too many. People working at Google: where is your conscience? If one of your family member was affected like this by a service provider who you have no control over, how would you feel?

zozbot234 5y ago
I don't exactly disagree with you, especially since from a quick search the name as mentioned by OP seems to be really common but the Googlebot is apparently fishing for info all over the web in a way that's guaranteed to create conflations. I don't think this is a nice thing to show off for them, it seems really amateurish.
belter 5y ago
Data grabbing for the general public, "intensely private" for others: https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/tracking-the-google-founders-plane/ https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/tracking-the-googl...
that_guy_iain 5y ago
> Even one person's life inconvenienced is one too many. People working at Google: where is your conscience? If one of your family member was affected like this by a service provider who you have no control over, how would you feel? This is an over-reaction. Someone being inconvienced is something you think should affect people's conscience? And it seems like OP could take control here and do something. They allow people to claim a knowledge panel however OP seems to only ask for things to be changed in a knowledge panel. It seems to me they provide the tools for OP to solve the issue but OP refuses to do so. I also wonder if OP choose to flag a problem or issue a legal removal request. I doubt very much that you sit there and feel shame and contemplate how you have inconvienced others and even when you've done so in a more purposeful way.
- Zvez 5y ago
  but what if you don't want to be identified? Because to claim panel you most probably have to provide some evidence it is you. on the other hand, what if you don't know/don't care about some google panel about you. But other people get harmed by it? If someone really lost their job just because his photo was attached. Who should be blamed and how this person should fix this if there is no tools to remove panel? So I don't see this as overreaction. If you make something that can do mistakes that can cost someone their job or harm significantly, you should provide some ways it can be fixed fast. And not via months of talking with a wall.
  - that_guy_iain 5y ago
    > If someone really lost their job just because his photo was attached. Who should be blamed and how this person should fix this if there is no tools to remove panel? So I don't see this as overreaction. If you make something that can do mistakes that can cost someone their job or harm significantly, you should provide some ways it can be fixed fast. And not via months of talking with a wall. Small correction the person who was pictured who lost their job lost it for sending threats to OP. They deserve the blame. And since your entire point is based on someone losing their job over the knowledge panel then it seems like your point is moot?
    - HeJAnQuer 5y ago
      there is a woman getting threats and harassment, (a woman that has absolutely nothing to do with the book/panel mind you) because of the knowledge panel not working as intended, and that is fine in your eyes because the op can post a photo of herself?(when she clearly said she doesn't want it online) are you intentionally being a devil's advocate?
      - that_guy_iain 5y ago
        * OP choose to write and publish a book. * It's subject matter makes it very clear there would be angry people. * OP choose to publish this under a name that is linked to lots of other people. Instead of a nonsense name linked to no one. * OP chooses not to claim the knowledge panel for her book. There are lots of things OP chose to do. The harm being done is partially at the hands of OP. OP isn't entirely blameless here and other people are getting threats and harassment because of OP and Google, but mostly because of OP. I get that it's a hard subject but if you're going to go write about a cult either do it completely anonymously or do it publically. This middle ground stuff OP is trying is clearly causing harm to other people.
anon321321323 5y ago
Its kind of like google kicking puppies in a lot of ways. There's no good reason for it. But the robots can't help. The humans acting as robots can't help either. Need a human involved. But they're too busy doing... other things.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  They're too busy designing even bigger puppy-kicking machines.

zozbot234 5y ago

I don't exactly disagree with you, especially since from a quick search the name as mentioned by OP seems to be really common but the Googlebot is apparently fishing for info all over the web in a way that's guaranteed to create conflations. I don't think this is a nice thing to show off for them, it seems really amateurish.

belter 5y ago

Data grabbing for the general public, "intensely private" for others: https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/tracking-the-google-founders-plane/ https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/tracking-the-googl...

that_guy_iain 5y ago

> Even one person's life inconvenienced is one too many. People working at Google: where is your conscience? If one of your family member was affected like this by a service provider who you have no control over, how would you feel? This is an over-reaction. Someone being inconvienced is something you think should affect people's conscience? And it seems like OP could take control here and do something. They allow people to claim a knowledge panel however OP seems to only ask for things to be changed in a knowledge panel. It seems to me they provide the tools for OP to solve the issue but OP refuses to do so. I also wonder if OP choose to flag a problem or issue a legal removal request. I doubt very much that you sit there and feel shame and contemplate how you have inconvienced others and even when you've done so in a more purposeful way.

Zvez 5y ago
but what if you don't want to be identified? Because to claim panel you most probably have to provide some evidence it is you. on the other hand, what if you don't know/don't care about some google panel about you. But other people get harmed by it? If someone really lost their job just because his photo was attached. Who should be blamed and how this person should fix this if there is no tools to remove panel? So I don't see this as overreaction. If you make something that can do mistakes that can cost someone their job or harm significantly, you should provide some ways it can be fixed fast. And not via months of talking with a wall.
- that_guy_iain 5y ago
  > If someone really lost their job just because his photo was attached. Who should be blamed and how this person should fix this if there is no tools to remove panel? So I don't see this as overreaction. If you make something that can do mistakes that can cost someone their job or harm significantly, you should provide some ways it can be fixed fast. And not via months of talking with a wall. Small correction the person who was pictured who lost their job lost it for sending threats to OP. They deserve the blame. And since your entire point is based on someone losing their job over the knowledge panel then it seems like your point is moot?
  - HeJAnQuer 5y ago
    there is a woman getting threats and harassment, (a woman that has absolutely nothing to do with the book/panel mind you) because of the knowledge panel not working as intended, and that is fine in your eyes because the op can post a photo of herself?(when she clearly said she doesn't want it online) are you intentionally being a devil's advocate?
    - that_guy_iain 5y ago
      * OP choose to write and publish a book. * It's subject matter makes it very clear there would be angry people. * OP choose to publish this under a name that is linked to lots of other people. Instead of a nonsense name linked to no one. * OP chooses not to claim the knowledge panel for her book. There are lots of things OP chose to do. The harm being done is partially at the hands of OP. OP isn't entirely blameless here and other people are getting threats and harassment because of OP and Google, but mostly because of OP. I get that it's a hard subject but if you're going to go write about a cult either do it completely anonymously or do it publically. This middle ground stuff OP is trying is clearly causing harm to other people.

anon321321323 5y ago

Its kind of like google kicking puppies in a lot of ways. There's no good reason for it. But the robots can't help. The humans acting as robots can't help either. Need a human involved. But they're too busy doing... other things.

CRConrad 5y ago
They're too busy designing even bigger puppy-kicking machines.