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by forcry 5y ago

criticaltinker 5y ago
Wow this is a seemingly well reasoned & data driven piece with accompanying citations, thanks for sharing. I'm honestly a bit stunned at some of the references & findings: - "The real world data has shown that the death rate among the vaccinated, if infected with COVID, can be 3 to 5.7 times higher [1] than the death rate of the unvaccinated." - "In the UK, which is tracking variants, reports [2] that among Delta variant cases, those vaccinated with two doses died at a rate of 0.0078 per infection and those unvaccinated died at a rate of 0.0014 per infection. The death per infection was 5.7 times higher among the vaccinated." That said, I can't seem to find any credentials or publications by the author of this piece "Dr RollerGator PhD". Can anyone provide citations to peer-reviewed publications that confirm or contradict his statements here? At face value the math appears to be correct, but perhaps there are more elusive errors in his reasoning. [1] Impact and effectiveness of mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 infections and COVID-19 cases, hospitalisations, and deaths following a nationwide vaccination campaign in Israel: an observational study using national surveillance data (May 2021) https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00947-8/fulltext#%20 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... [2] SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England (July 2021) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
- ddingus 5y ago
  Death per infection does not correctly state the risk. A better look would be dead/recovered. Death per infection assumes nobody else infected will die, which makes that risk assessment the absolute best case.
- forcry 5y ago
  >That said, I can't seem to find any credentials or publications by the author of this piece "Dr RollerGator PhD". That is probably an alias. I think no one is going to commit career suicide by getting themselves labelled "Anti-Vaccine" doctor. (Even when this article does not suggest vaccines are bad)..

https://drrollergator.substack.com/p/damned-lies-and-vaccine-statistics https://drrollergator.substack.com/p/damned-lies-and-vaccine...

by forcry 5y ago

https://drrollergator.substack.com/p/damned-lies-and-vaccine-statistics https://drrollergator.substack.com/p/damned-lies-and-vaccine...

criticaltinker 5y ago

Wow this is a seemingly well reasoned & data driven piece with accompanying citations, thanks for sharing. I'm honestly a bit stunned at some of the references & findings: - "The real world data has shown that the death rate among the vaccinated, if infected with COVID, can be 3 to 5.7 times higher [1] than the death rate of the unvaccinated." - "In the UK, which is tracking variants, reports [2] that among Delta variant cases, those vaccinated with two doses died at a rate of 0.0078 per infection and those unvaccinated died at a rate of 0.0014 per infection. The death per infection was 5.7 times higher among the vaccinated." That said, I can't seem to find any credentials or publications by the author of this piece "Dr RollerGator PhD". Can anyone provide citations to peer-reviewed publications that confirm or contradict his statements here? At face value the math appears to be correct, but perhaps there are more elusive errors in his reasoning. [1] Impact and effectiveness of mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 infections and COVID-19 cases, hospitalisations, and deaths following a nationwide vaccination campaign in Israel: an observational study using national surveillance data (May 2021) https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00947-8/fulltext#%20 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... [2] SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England (July 2021) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...

ddingus 5y ago
Death per infection does not correctly state the risk. A better look would be dead/recovered. Death per infection assumes nobody else infected will die, which makes that risk assessment the absolute best case.
forcry 5y ago
>That said, I can't seem to find any credentials or publications by the author of this piece "Dr RollerGator PhD". That is probably an alias. I think no one is going to commit career suicide by getting themselves labelled "Anti-Vaccine" doctor. (Even when this article does not suggest vaccines are bad)..