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It's not just France - the way that the NYT treats the UK has become a running joke e.g: https://londonist.com/london/food-and-drink/until-recently-londoners-a

by nagrom 5y ago

It's not just France - the way that the NYT treats the UK has become a running joke e.g: https://londonist.com/london/food-and-drink/until-recently-londoners-ate-boiled-mutton-and-porridge-according-to-this-new-york-times-article https://londonist.com/london/food-and-drink/until-recently-l... https://unherd.com/2020/01/what-has-the-new-york-times-got-against-britain/ https://unherd.com/2020/01/what-has-the-new-york-times-got-a... This weird inability to reflect reality I see day-to-day coupled with the insistence on anti-patterns of behaviour for those cancelling their subscriptions has prevented me from taking out a sub to the NYT. That's a shame, as some of the articles are great.

mcguire 5y ago
You have to admit that Great Britain has a long-term reputation for boiling food to death. And their sporting culture seems even more Leroy Jenkins than that in the US.
- tonyedgecombe 5y ago
  >You have to admit that Great Britain has a long-term reputation for boiling food to death. Not for a long time. >And their sporting culture seems even more Leroy Jenkins than that in the US. Currently 6th in the medal table for the Olympics.
  - mcguire 5y ago
    With or without laser pointers? :-)
- cududa 5y ago
  Our Scottish and US families have long running jokes about one another’s cultures, and the food part was a long one. Until the matriarch on the Scottish side was here with a larger amount of the family and said “well our food is kind of pish in comparison”
prof-dr-ir 5y ago
The second reference you gave lists four opinion pieces, one culinary review whose tongue-in-cheek comment it misinterprets, and one actual news article about the impact of austerity in Britain. That one news article was a subject of intense discussion at the time which quickly became politicized. A decent overview of the discussion can be found at https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/business/prescot-makes-front-page-new-14719571 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/business/prescot-makes-... For what it's worth, I wholly subscribe to the OP's viewpoint that the NY times' reports from France have been subpar in recent months - in my view they have been too Americo-Centric and do not sufficiently recognize the different value system in France. But I have often been positively surprised by the paper's reporting on UK issues (and on Brexit in particular).

by nagrom 5y ago

mcguire 5y ago

You have to admit that Great Britain has a long-term reputation for boiling food to death. And their sporting culture seems even more Leroy Jenkins than that in the US.

tonyedgecombe 5y ago
>You have to admit that Great Britain has a long-term reputation for boiling food to death. Not for a long time. >And their sporting culture seems even more Leroy Jenkins than that in the US. Currently 6th in the medal table for the Olympics.
- mcguire 5y ago
  With or without laser pointers? :-)
cududa 5y ago
Our Scottish and US families have long running jokes about one another’s cultures, and the food part was a long one. Until the matriarch on the Scottish side was here with a larger amount of the family and said “well our food is kind of pish in comparison”

prof-dr-ir 5y ago

The second reference you gave lists four opinion pieces, one culinary review whose tongue-in-cheek comment it misinterprets, and one actual news article about the impact of austerity in Britain. That one news article was a subject of intense discussion at the time which quickly became politicized. A decent overview of the discussion can be found at https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/business/prescot-makes-front-page-new-14719571 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/business/prescot-makes-... For what it's worth, I wholly subscribe to the OP's viewpoint that the NY times' reports from France have been subpar in recent months - in my view they have been too Americo-Centric and do not sufficiently recognize the different value system in France. But I have often been positively surprised by the paper's reporting on UK issues (and on Brexit in particular).