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Clearly there's evidence. You can contact the vets who are currently suffering. Plz look on SOCMED and ask them for an interview, then draw your own conclusion.

l332mn 5y ago
We're talking about evidence for an attack.
- whereis 5y ago
  Evidence comes in many forms. There's definitely evidence unless the govt is completely fabricating the existence of these injuries (which is unlikely).
  - l332mn 5y ago
    I don't think you're following.
    - whereis 5y ago
      No, it's perfectly clear. Evidence comes in many forms. There doesn't appear to be evidence in the form of a recovered weapon or technical recording/logging of an attack as it happened, at least nothing that has been disclosed. However, the injuries are real and ongoing. It took a long time for consensus agreement that these events were malicious targeting by hostile govts against our diplomats, using remote energy weapons. Even just with the evidence made public, it's the most plausible explanation.
      - l332mn 5y ago
        >Even just with the evidence made public, it's the most plausible explanation. It's not the most plausible explanation, but it is the most convenient one. It shifts the blame and reinforces the narrative. They don't even have a coherent idea regarding how such a weapon would work in practice, it's pure speculation.
        whereis 5y ago
        No, it's not speculation. US Mil has had functional REW's for a while.
        whereis 5y ago
        New article. They have direct recorded evidence of an attack. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/us-intelligence-grapples-nervous-system-attacks-russia https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/us-intelligence-g...
        l332mn 5y ago
        No they haven't, it's simply one possible explanation. It's still be "best" (i.e. most convenient) theory. Besides, these "attacks" even happened in Washington DC. Was that Russia also? Who did it, how did they do it, and where are the weapons? Russia is the US's favorite boogeyman, and I'm sure they will "retaliate" through economic sanctions or military intervention. In all likelihood, the Havana Syndrome is a fabricated narrative and mere pretext for unilateral aggression. Consider the last paraphraph of the article: > "Most importantly, if and when more evidence is gathered, Putin, Nikolai Patrushev, and their officers must be held to account." This is not "news", it is war propaganda. Besides, it's immensely hypocritical. When was American government and intelligence officials ever held to account for orchestrating and instigating violent aggression abroad?
    - whereis 5y ago
      New news https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/04/politics/lawmaker-anger-cia-energy-attacks/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/04/politics/lawmaker-anger-cia-e...

l332mn 5y ago

We're talking about evidence for an attack.

whereis 5y ago
Evidence comes in many forms. There's definitely evidence unless the govt is completely fabricating the existence of these injuries (which is unlikely).
- l332mn 5y ago
  I don't think you're following.
  - whereis 5y ago
    No, it's perfectly clear. Evidence comes in many forms. There doesn't appear to be evidence in the form of a recovered weapon or technical recording/logging of an attack as it happened, at least nothing that has been disclosed. However, the injuries are real and ongoing. It took a long time for consensus agreement that these events were malicious targeting by hostile govts against our diplomats, using remote energy weapons. Even just with the evidence made public, it's the most plausible explanation.
    - l332mn 5y ago
      >Even just with the evidence made public, it's the most plausible explanation. It's not the most plausible explanation, but it is the most convenient one. It shifts the blame and reinforces the narrative. They don't even have a coherent idea regarding how such a weapon would work in practice, it's pure speculation.
      - whereis 5y ago
        No, it's not speculation. US Mil has had functional REW's for a while.
      - whereis 5y ago
        New article. They have direct recorded evidence of an attack. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/us-intelligence-grapples-nervous-system-attacks-russia https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/us-intelligence-g...
        l332mn 5y ago
        No they haven't, it's simply one possible explanation. It's still be "best" (i.e. most convenient) theory. Besides, these "attacks" even happened in Washington DC. Was that Russia also? Who did it, how did they do it, and where are the weapons? Russia is the US's favorite boogeyman, and I'm sure they will "retaliate" through economic sanctions or military intervention. In all likelihood, the Havana Syndrome is a fabricated narrative and mere pretext for unilateral aggression. Consider the last paraphraph of the article: > "Most importantly, if and when more evidence is gathered, Putin, Nikolai Patrushev, and their officers must be held to account." This is not "news", it is war propaganda. Besides, it's immensely hypocritical. When was American government and intelligence officials ever held to account for orchestrating and instigating violent aggression abroad?
  - whereis 5y ago
    New news https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/04/politics/lawmaker-anger-cia-energy-attacks/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/04/politics/lawmaker-anger-cia-e...