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Unikernels are probably best compared to RTOS that are used in embedded systems. They dramatically reduce the guest operating system overhead for virtual machin

Unikernels are probably best compared to RTOS that are used in embedded systems. They dramatically reduce the guest operating system overhead for virtual machines. As the weight of the isolation technology gets smaller, we are going to see an increasing use of it as a form of security, and scalability in application designs. We've seen the first wave with microservices, but we'll see more.

halation_effect 5y ago
Couldn't you make a real time unikernel? Basically you should be able to modify an existing unikernel implementation to make it real time.
- eyberg 5y ago
  You can and there are a few use-cases we've looked at - v2v && autonomous driving.
- i_like_procfs 5y ago
  What kind of guarantees, mechanisms and instrumentation can unikernels provide in this space for real-time execution of code for mission critical systems?
  - halation_effect 5y ago
    I think it should be able to provide the same guarantees as a RTOS if you implement them. But then, would you call it a unikernel still or a RTOS?
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  At John Deere they compile various "applications" into their home-grown JDOS (or rather for a given controller, they compile several apps and the OS into a single 'executable'). I.e., the OS is a library, which I think is the definition of a unikernel, although perhaps not since there are often several apps on a controller?
  - felipehuici 5y ago
    Typically unikernels have a single application in them because then you can fully specialize the entire image to the needs of that single application. Having said that, it is entirely possible to place multiple applications in one unikernel, each in its own thread; we have done a few of these in the past.
- monocasa 5y ago
  > Basically you should be able to modify an existing unikernel implementation to make it real time. It's very very difficult to hack in real time properties after the fact. Most successful versions of this end up hacking in a virtualization layer to run the code that wasn't designed to be real time in the first place rather than trying to make that code play nice cooperatively with a real time system. RTLinux is a good example which uses Linux to bootstrap a microkernel which then virtualizes the Linux kernel that booted it.
Kinrany 5y ago
I wonder how much time will pass until application compilers start outputting unikernels

halation_effect 5y ago

Couldn't you make a real time unikernel? Basically you should be able to modify an existing unikernel implementation to make it real time.

eyberg 5y ago
You can and there are a few use-cases we've looked at - v2v && autonomous driving.
i_like_procfs 5y ago
What kind of guarantees, mechanisms and instrumentation can unikernels provide in this space for real-time execution of code for mission critical systems?
- halation_effect 5y ago
  I think it should be able to provide the same guarantees as a RTOS if you implement them. But then, would you call it a unikernel still or a RTOS?
throwaway894345 5y ago
At John Deere they compile various "applications" into their home-grown JDOS (or rather for a given controller, they compile several apps and the OS into a single 'executable'). I.e., the OS is a library, which I think is the definition of a unikernel, although perhaps not since there are often several apps on a controller?
- felipehuici 5y ago
  Typically unikernels have a single application in them because then you can fully specialize the entire image to the needs of that single application. Having said that, it is entirely possible to place multiple applications in one unikernel, each in its own thread; we have done a few of these in the past.
monocasa 5y ago
> Basically you should be able to modify an existing unikernel implementation to make it real time. It's very very difficult to hack in real time properties after the fact. Most successful versions of this end up hacking in a virtualization layer to run the code that wasn't designed to be real time in the first place rather than trying to make that code play nice cooperatively with a real time system. RTLinux is a good example which uses Linux to bootstrap a microkernel which then virtualizes the Linux kernel that booted it.

Kinrany 5y ago

I wonder how much time will pass until application compilers start outputting unikernels