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Thanks a lot, Appreciate. It is not I don't want to pay the washingtonpost.com. I just don't have time to read them.

by codeproject 5y ago

pelagic_sky 5y ago
Thank you! Had to use Safari on mobile as the captcha did not play well with Firefox.
- gitowiec 5y ago
  Google recaptcha? I get the same problem continuously on FX desktop and Android :(
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    Really? I use Firefox literally all the time (with the minor exception of some internal work sites where they require Edge) and while all captchas annoy me to no end, recaptcha does work perfectly fine on Firefox even with uBlock origin and pihole running. Both on Desktop (I use FF on Windows, Mac, Linux and FreeBSD :) ) and on Android. What is the problem you're seeing? In fact I really rarely have any issues with FF whatsoever, and if I do it is always either uBlock Origin blocking a little bit too much, or a site that specifically rules out Firefox (like https://business.apple.com https://business.apple.com ), probably for no real reason other than not bothering to test their site with it.
uptown 5y ago
They'll actually take your money whether you read it or not.
joezydeco 5y ago
If you have Amazon prime, it's half price and free for the first month.
rch 5y ago
I've tried subscribing to a few news sources, including WaPo, but I can't handle the political agendas (right, left, or any of it). I've had better luck with subscription based aggregators, but nothing exciting enough to want to plug one in particular. Always looking for new options to try.
- dogman144 5y ago
  Yeah all the news sources my parents sub’d to in the early 00s and I sort of figured I’d sub to as well once ready are aggravatingly narrative driven. I’m not sure if I never noticed that, or if it’s a new media approach, but I don’t need “baseball + narrative injection” articles in my life. I’m actually fairly bummed out about this, I go to Reuters now.
  - anigbrowl 5y ago
    News coverage has always been narrative driven to some extent, but previously that was more in selectivity of coverage. The quality of reporting has been in a long slow decline due to a mix of sagging finances and low-no quality control competition. The 'Action News' TV format significantly degraded things, and then blogs and specifically conservative-targeted media drove adoption of the narrative approach. This revealing interview gives an interesting perspective on the media business around the turn of the century. Note that this is a pdf archive copy saved to draw attention to a particular segment, and I'd urge you ignore that and rad the whole thing. I can't link to the original as it vanished some time ago, and this archive predates the establishment of the internet archive. Thus the presentation is biased (sorry) but it's the only complete copy of the interview I know of. https://zfacts.com/zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/Weekly_Standard_Matt-Labash_confesses.pdf https://zfacts.com/zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/Weekly_Standard_M...
- deanCommie 5y ago
  I think the key question isn't which political agenda they have, but whether they report facts or opinions. In that regard, WaPo is pretty good but you can still do better: https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/ https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/
dkdk8283 5y ago
It’s the principle for me. I won’t support any publication with obvious bias.
- atat7024 5y ago
  Do you pay for the Financial Times/WSJ?
- mitchdoogle 5y ago
  All news outlets are biased. Choosing what to report is part of bias. Nobody has the resources to report on every possible news story. There is even such a thing as "centrist bias". Better to choose a few reputable publications with different bias (according to FAIR or whoever) if you want a more balanced approach.
- crooked-v 5y ago
  Everyone has bias of one kind or another.
  - serf 5y ago
    speaking for myself, state-level bias is harder to ignore than the kind of bias a reporter has when talking about politics that are against their own personal beliefs. personally I find outlets like NYT or NYPost to be too filled with the type of 'state-level bias' that I have a mental allergy to.
GekkePrutser 5y ago
https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome also really works well on the desktop. Unfortunately I haven't found a way to get it working on Firefox on mobile (the chrome repo also contains the FF one now ;) ). Thanks for the archive link. PS I understand that websites need to monetise.. But getting a subscription to read one linked article per month or so is just not going to happen. The sites I use a lot I do pay a membership for.
- bagacrap 5y ago
  perhaps you should consider getting a subscription one month per year and using the extension the other 11 if you think that's a more fair price to pay
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    Good point. But I'm not sure if I'd do this with the Washington post. I wouldn't normally read this unless it's linked from somewhere else (I live in Europe). I actually had an online subscription to the Guardian for a while because they were really good on the privacy advocacy news. I wanted to support a paper with deep dives into privacy issues. However the last couple of years I got annoyed with too much Brexit stuff (not surprising for a UK based paper obviously but as I don't live in the UK I don't want to read about it every day). So I let it lapse. But there's another thing holding me back. If I subscribe I have to give all my personal details. I don't want to have too many sites where I have that around, data leaks are now happening too often. Even a couple days ago I got yet another notification from haveibeenpwned (this time it was the Spanish company phonehouse.es that was hit). Anyway, I just wanted to say that while I use paywall avoiding tools I'm not blind to the problem of monetisation and the cost of real journalism :)
- fwn 5y ago
  You need Firefox 68 ( fennec 68.11.0 ) to use extensions from the open internet. Mozilla axed general extension support in later versions of their android browser. I just keep it around next to my regular browser for the occasional paywall.
quakeguy 5y ago
Great point and totally off-topic, but I wonder if there is someone who reads the NY Times each and everyday in full.
- kdmytro 5y ago
  When you go to an all-you-can-eat buffet, do you eat all you can, or just until you are full?
  - zentiggr 5y ago
    Does your brain get full and have to empty itself before you can read more?
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  My parents are cover to cover times readers every day since they retired. Obviously they don't read every article, but they look at every page.
1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
For text-only view, no Javascript or cookies: curl https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/24/pentagon-internet-address-mystery/?outputType=amp |grep -o "<p data".*</p>" > 1.htm firefox ./1.htm
- efreak 5y ago
  If you're on Android using an app like Materialistic to browser HN, like I am, use a reader-mode-only app like Reedy to open your articles; since it only parses html and doesn't run scripts, it will work on every site that sends the whole article and not just a snippet. I'm partial to Reedy because it tends to fall "safe" and include more content rather than less, but other similar apps should work just as well (SmartNews has a similar function, as do Article Reader Offline, wallabag, and Webreader; I find Reedy has the best UI/feature set for my use).
  - 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
    TBH, I never use a "smartphone" for web browsing. Screen is too small, no tactile keyboard, etc. Also, I generally do not install mobile apps. Only a few from F-Droid on Android, one or two on iOS.
saurik 5y ago
Or just not stop after pressing reload, to prevent their paywall from loading.

Thanks a lot, Appreciate. It is not I don't want to pay the washingtonpost.com. I just don't have time to read them.

pelagic_sky 5y ago

Thank you! Had to use Safari on mobile as the captcha did not play well with Firefox.

gitowiec 5y ago
Google recaptcha? I get the same problem continuously on FX desktop and Android :(
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  Really? I use Firefox literally all the time (with the minor exception of some internal work sites where they require Edge) and while all captchas annoy me to no end, recaptcha does work perfectly fine on Firefox even with uBlock origin and pihole running. Both on Desktop (I use FF on Windows, Mac, Linux and FreeBSD :) ) and on Android. What is the problem you're seeing? In fact I really rarely have any issues with FF whatsoever, and if I do it is always either uBlock Origin blocking a little bit too much, or a site that specifically rules out Firefox (like https://business.apple.com https://business.apple.com ), probably for no real reason other than not bothering to test their site with it.

uptown 5y ago

They'll actually take your money whether you read it or not.

joezydeco 5y ago

If you have Amazon prime, it's half price and free for the first month.

rch 5y ago

I've tried subscribing to a few news sources, including WaPo, but I can't handle the political agendas (right, left, or any of it). I've had better luck with subscription based aggregators, but nothing exciting enough to want to plug one in particular. Always looking for new options to try.

dogman144 5y ago
Yeah all the news sources my parents sub’d to in the early 00s and I sort of figured I’d sub to as well once ready are aggravatingly narrative driven. I’m not sure if I never noticed that, or if it’s a new media approach, but I don’t need “baseball + narrative injection” articles in my life. I’m actually fairly bummed out about this, I go to Reuters now.
- anigbrowl 5y ago
  News coverage has always been narrative driven to some extent, but previously that was more in selectivity of coverage. The quality of reporting has been in a long slow decline due to a mix of sagging finances and low-no quality control competition. The 'Action News' TV format significantly degraded things, and then blogs and specifically conservative-targeted media drove adoption of the narrative approach. This revealing interview gives an interesting perspective on the media business around the turn of the century. Note that this is a pdf archive copy saved to draw attention to a particular segment, and I'd urge you ignore that and rad the whole thing. I can't link to the original as it vanished some time ago, and this archive predates the establishment of the internet archive. Thus the presentation is biased (sorry) but it's the only complete copy of the interview I know of. https://zfacts.com/zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/Weekly_Standard_Matt-Labash_confesses.pdf https://zfacts.com/zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/Weekly_Standard_M...
deanCommie 5y ago
I think the key question isn't which political agenda they have, but whether they report facts or opinions. In that regard, WaPo is pretty good but you can still do better: https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/ https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/

dkdk8283 5y ago

It’s the principle for me. I won’t support any publication with obvious bias.

atat7024 5y ago
Do you pay for the Financial Times/WSJ?
mitchdoogle 5y ago
All news outlets are biased. Choosing what to report is part of bias. Nobody has the resources to report on every possible news story. There is even such a thing as "centrist bias". Better to choose a few reputable publications with different bias (according to FAIR or whoever) if you want a more balanced approach.
crooked-v 5y ago
Everyone has bias of one kind or another.
- serf 5y ago
  speaking for myself, state-level bias is harder to ignore than the kind of bias a reporter has when talking about politics that are against their own personal beliefs. personally I find outlets like NYT or NYPost to be too filled with the type of 'state-level bias' that I have a mental allergy to.

GekkePrutser 5y ago

https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome also really works well on the desktop. Unfortunately I haven't found a way to get it working on Firefox on mobile (the chrome repo also contains the FF one now ;) ). Thanks for the archive link. PS I understand that websites need to monetise.. But getting a subscription to read one linked article per month or so is just not going to happen. The sites I use a lot I do pay a membership for.

bagacrap 5y ago
perhaps you should consider getting a subscription one month per year and using the extension the other 11 if you think that's a more fair price to pay
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  Good point. But I'm not sure if I'd do this with the Washington post. I wouldn't normally read this unless it's linked from somewhere else (I live in Europe). I actually had an online subscription to the Guardian for a while because they were really good on the privacy advocacy news. I wanted to support a paper with deep dives into privacy issues. However the last couple of years I got annoyed with too much Brexit stuff (not surprising for a UK based paper obviously but as I don't live in the UK I don't want to read about it every day). So I let it lapse. But there's another thing holding me back. If I subscribe I have to give all my personal details. I don't want to have too many sites where I have that around, data leaks are now happening too often. Even a couple days ago I got yet another notification from haveibeenpwned (this time it was the Spanish company phonehouse.es that was hit). Anyway, I just wanted to say that while I use paywall avoiding tools I'm not blind to the problem of monetisation and the cost of real journalism :)
fwn 5y ago
You need Firefox 68 ( fennec 68.11.0 ) to use extensions from the open internet. Mozilla axed general extension support in later versions of their android browser. I just keep it around next to my regular browser for the occasional paywall.

quakeguy 5y ago

Great point and totally off-topic, but I wonder if there is someone who reads the NY Times each and everyday in full.

kdmytro 5y ago
When you go to an all-you-can-eat buffet, do you eat all you can, or just until you are full?
- zentiggr 5y ago
  Does your brain get full and have to empty itself before you can read more?
colinmhayes 5y ago
My parents are cover to cover times readers every day since they retired. Obviously they don't read every article, but they look at every page.

1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago

For text-only view, no Javascript or cookies: curl https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/24/pentagon-internet-address-mystery/?outputType=amp |grep -o "<p data".*</p>" > 1.htm firefox ./1.htm

efreak 5y ago
If you're on Android using an app like Materialistic to browser HN, like I am, use a reader-mode-only app like Reedy to open your articles; since it only parses html and doesn't run scripts, it will work on every site that sends the whole article and not just a snippet. I'm partial to Reedy because it tends to fall "safe" and include more content rather than less, but other similar apps should work just as well (SmartNews has a similar function, as do Article Reader Offline, wallabag, and Webreader; I find Reedy has the best UI/feature set for my use).
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
  TBH, I never use a "smartphone" for web browsing. Screen is too small, no tactile keyboard, etc. Also, I generally do not install mobile apps. Only a few from F-Droid on Android, one or two on iOS.

saurik 5y ago

Or just not stop after pressing reload, to prevent their paywall from loading.