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I've been using a Blackberry Passport since early 2019 - as a replacement for the "dumb" phone I used for many years. I love it! The build quality is fantastic.

I've been using a Blackberry Passport since early 2019 - as a replacement for the "dumb" phone I used for many years. I love it! The build quality is fantastic. The keyboard is a beauty to type on. The camera is great quality. In terms of build it's my ideal phone. What I wouldn't give for an up-to-date version of this [edit: at an affordable price]! Unfortunately the software limitations mean that I'm likely going to need to switch to a "modern" phone soon. Per the article you can't run Android apps beyond Android 4.3 and even those often don't work - means I can't use banking apps, or government apps (eg. Track&Trace or recently the EU Settled Status app), or Spotify, or most chat apps. Many websites don't work on it either.

bluecatswim 6y ago
>means I can't use banking apps, or government apps (eg. Track&Trace or recently the EU Settled Status app) Can't you use a web browser for those things?
- mato 6y ago
  Here /Europe/ some banks are starting to require the use of mobile apps for authenticating transactions, instead of providing hardware tokens. When I ran into this problem they told me: "either pay us X EUR/month extra for Business Banking or, no hardware token for you". Calculated that (X * 12) < (cost of cheap Nokia Android phone), and got the latter which I keep in flight mode in a desk drawer and use for the banking app only.
  - jay_kyburz 6y ago
    I have an old broken iPhone on my desk for similar a reason. Australian tax office _requires_ you to have an Android or iPhone to login (MyGov App). Even if I am trying to do things on my desktop.
- andmikey 6y ago
  Government apps no - both require a 'modern' Android or iPhone. Banking apps partially - I can't use the web browser on my phone (it doesn't support modern enough crypto) but I can use the web browser on my laptop. Mostly it's that I've not been able to try any of the online-only challenger banks ;)
- throwaway3699 6y ago
  For track and trace at least, it relies on the Google and Apple contact tracing APIs.
Triv888 6y ago
Someone in this thread said that he updated SSL certificates to fix the website issue.

bluecatswim 6y ago

>means I can't use banking apps, or government apps (eg. Track&Trace or recently the EU Settled Status app) Can't you use a web browser for those things?

mato 6y ago
Here /Europe/ some banks are starting to require the use of mobile apps for authenticating transactions, instead of providing hardware tokens. When I ran into this problem they told me: "either pay us X EUR/month extra for Business Banking or, no hardware token for you". Calculated that (X * 12) < (cost of cheap Nokia Android phone), and got the latter which I keep in flight mode in a desk drawer and use for the banking app only.
- jay_kyburz 6y ago
  I have an old broken iPhone on my desk for similar a reason. Australian tax office _requires_ you to have an Android or iPhone to login (MyGov App). Even if I am trying to do things on my desktop.
andmikey 6y ago
Government apps no - both require a 'modern' Android or iPhone. Banking apps partially - I can't use the web browser on my phone (it doesn't support modern enough crypto) but I can use the web browser on my laptop. Mostly it's that I've not been able to try any of the online-only challenger banks ;)
throwaway3699 6y ago
For track and trace at least, it relies on the Google and Apple contact tracing APIs.

Triv888 6y ago

Someone in this thread said that he updated SSL certificates to fix the website issue.