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Chucking TV Helped me Start my Company
- davidw 15y agoI wish I had some major time waster like that to eliminate, but sadly, TV has already gone by the wayside for me a long time ago.
- dmm 15y agoFrom my own experience, and knowing nothing about you, try accounting for your time in 15-min increments for a week. You might be surprised.
- taphangum 15y agoTry the Pomodoro Technique
- _pius 15y agoI wish I had some major time waster like that to eliminate ... Maybe you're commenting on it? :P
- davidw 15y agoHeh, if anything, yeah, this site'd be it, but I've managed to cut back on it, too.
- hugh3 15y agoAre you this guy? http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/ http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mention...
- davidw 15y agoNope, we have one, I just never watch it, except for bicycle racing once in a rare while.
- joshaidan 15y agoChucking out Hacker News would help me start my company. (there's a really funny irony to this statement)
- michael_dorfman 15y agoThat's a pretty well-known phenomenon; in fact, that's what /noprocrast is for.
- gjm11 15y agoAnd the thing is, if chucking HN (or: chucking HN and similar internet distractions) enables someone to free up enough time and energy to do something good ... they're less likely to write about it on the internet, and so we HN junkies are less likely to hear about it. The other thing is that when someone stops (say) watching TV and it turns out not to make much difference to their life, we probably won't hear about that either. Sampling bias is a powerful thing.
- ashishpatel1323 15y agolol...so true
- dpcan 15y agoI think the real irony is that the guy who started this giant time-suck for startups can be considered the "face" of startups in America :)
- code_duck 15y agoI like to rationalize it, and think that at the least, the helpful information, contacts, advice and ideas I get from here balances the time I spend fribbling around.
- biot 15y agoHacker News is the place people go to find out what has been created by those who don't waste their time reading HN.
- greencircle 15y agoI also overdosed on TV and got rid of it around college time. That is, until Netflix came along. Now I'm thinking about unsubscribing from Netflix. I like what he says about needing a break: you just need to exercise another part of your brain. And that is what I've discovered to be the solution for work-life balance: take a break from work, and immerse yourself in family time, so that you can return to work refreshed. You shouldn't feel guilty for missing out on work while with your family, nor guilty for working while not being with your family, as long as there is balance, because you need to satisfy different needs at different times, and it helps you return to full power.
- Qz 15y agoI have avoided subscribing to Netflix for this exact reason. Hulu is bad enough, and that's all the TV I watch.
- josefresco 15y agoThe fact that he ditched TV has nothing to do with the device/media itself. I could very easily write the same article about how chucking 'playing guitar' helped me launch my startup. If anything occupies a lot of your time, of course eliminating it will free up time for other things.
- aspirant 15y agoRight, because ending up a great musician instead of a great watcher of television would have been awful.
- latch 15y agoYou sir, have been upvoted. I hate the "agree" posts, but since no one else can see how upvoted I can only dream you've been, I decided this comment was worth the -4.
- dpcan 15y agoYou are missing his point. He could have replaced guitar with model airplane building, riding bikes, making friendship bracelets, or training a giraffe. The point is, good time management makes time for the things you need to make time for - and in this person's case, TV happened to be his vice.
- edanm 15y agoDoes everyone who practices guitar ends up a great musician? And if they don't, but only practice guitar to relax, would you consider the time "wasted"?
- stoney 15y agoI guess you could approach this kind of question from a risk/probability point of view. Not everyone who practices guitar becomes great at it, but some do, so if you practice guitar you expose yourself to a potentially big upside (assuming you actually want to be a great guitar player). I can't think of a potential upside that you expose yourself to by watching TV (other than the immediate gratification), but maybe there is something.
- chriswoodford 15y agoi actually find that tv makes me more productive. i'm not sure why... i can just put on a season of futurama or arrested development and keep focused/keep coding. without tv, i find i get antsy or distracted. if i put on music, i spend more time air drumming and rocking out than typing.
- udp 15y agoTry different music? Anything without words is good when you're working - I lean towards ambient or chillout. Not that I don't like heavy music, but as you say, it doesn't really work as something to have on in the background.
- chriswoodford 15y agoi generally just keep music for my non-work related time. though you're right that it is likely due to my genres of choice. tv while i work is still my preference and keeps me the most productive. it's like the ADD portion of my brain is satiated by the flickering lights and let's the rest of my brain focus on the task at hand.
- dpcan 15y agoI'm with the poster. I play reruns of TV shows in iTunes throughout my day. The white noise from meaningless TV is one of the only ways I stay productive. I find it 100% impossible to work with Music on. I just can't handle it. Every 3 minutes there is a completely different sound playing. Each song has a completely different story. Each song triggers an entirely different set of emotions. Every 6 to 10 minutes I have to stop and start skipping through tracks to find something suitable for the moment. If I just play the same band over and over, I find it leads to a trance like state, or I feel like I'm being punished and forced to listen to the same music. Then there's the music I would have to play in order to stay focused, say instrumental music only, and in this case I get frustrated. Tired of the loop, of the sound, it turns into a "tick" instead of a sound. Anyway, I have a real hate-hate relationship with listening to music while I work. Very few people are with me on this. I prefer to turn on white-noise TV just so there's ambiance in the room that has no rhythm :)
- Luyt 15y agoI hardly watch TV anymore, because I find all programs of the national TV mindnumbingly stupid. Commercial stations have the same braindead programs. Movies are reduced to vehicles to shove as much commercials before your eyeballs as possible. I still have a TV in my living room, tho. Once a day I watch the news.
- Skroob 15y agoIf watching TV is distracting you from working on your company, you don't have to sell your TV, just stop watching it. You're going to be bombarded with distractions no matter what you do. Family, friends, beer, the whole internet in general, all have the potential to be really distracting. But you can't just throw them out or sell them at a garage sale, you need to learn to get stuff done with them in your life as well. If you don't have the willpower to simply turn the TV off, how will you have the willpower to say no to a night out at the bar with friends, or when you open a new browser window and reddit is just a few keystrokes away I'll only check out a few links then it's back to work oh look its 4am how did that happen? Basically, stop blaming TV. TV isn't what's not getting the work done.
- MrFoof 15y agoYou're pretty much on-the-nose. You can always make an active choice as to whether you'll be producing or consuming. With TV, you're guaranteed to be consuming. There is nothing wrong with consuming. Sometimes your brain is fried, and you need to mentally recharge. However if you have the ability to produce, and you are not choosing to produce, you will fail. For some, removing the consumption device makes it easier to produce since the choice the consume is no longer an option.
- notauser 15y agoMy weakness is food. I'll eat anything that's in front of me or in the fridge. I'll just mindlessly snack on it until I'm uncomfortably full. I live right across the road from a store and yet if there is no food in the house I won't feel inclined to go and buy more unless it's time for a meal. Then I buy exactly enough stuff to make one meal only with no difficulty restraining myself. Result: I exercise a form of will power I do have and achieve my goal rather than failing to exercise a form of willpower I don't have. Am I just fooling myself? Yeah. Maybe this guy is too. But if the outcome is positive then that seems smart to me.
- rgraham 15y agoThis is true and smart. There is a quote in 'Cooking for Geeks' about this phenomenon from Michael Pollan. The idea is that Americans could fix their diets by eating smaller portions, but the simplest way to get people to eat smaller portions is a smaller plate. Changing your environment is easier that changing your behavior and it works. It's a powerful idea.
- mark_l_watson 15y agoI have cut back on watching TV. Using a DVR helps: not only for skipping commercials but for some reason when I am watching something that is recorded it is much easier to bail out and delete it after a few minutes. I try to watch about 4 hours of TV a week and perhaps 3 movies - this may seem like a lot, but a decrease compared to 10 years ago. My big time sink is reading: I read about 3 technical books a month and about 2 novels. For a mindless vegging-out activity, I like hiking.
- reustle 15y agoI don't even own a TV (or a netflix account). I'm quite happy with how much I'm able to get done.
- eswat 15y agoIf you absolutely must have some form of TV entertainment in your life, just try a 1-week or 1-month binge on Netflix or AppleTV to soak up any relevant or thought-provoking show/movie/doc you must see, then unsubscribe/stop using those services for a year—preferably more—and repeat. I stopped watching TV and most films from 2007 onwards… until Netflix finally came to Canada and I gorged on it like an all-you-can eat buffet for a month or two. I couldn’t believe I missed stuff like Mad Men and Slumdog Millionaire and started to kick myself for not having seen them sooner. But really, I watched those a few years after their release, and they’re still just as great as when they first came out. I may have missed a few water cooler talks about Don Draper’s relationships with his secretaries, but who cares. And while many documentaries I’ve seen during the binge were eye-opening, I didn’t lose big by not being able think critically or apply what I’ve seen immediately after.
- hugh3 15y agoI don't think that binge-watching is a good way to use TV. TV is a fine way to soak up a leisure hour when you don't particularly feel like doing anything else. If you're alert, do something creative. If you're energetic, go do some exercise. But if you're dog tired for two hours before bedtime, then by all means go watch some damn TV.
- juniortp 15y agoI think Internet is close. The issue is definition of work.Stackoverflow is internet or work?
- masterzora 15y agoI've found some truth to this in my own experience. I've actually given up on having cable/satellite/some other system where I can just turn on the TV and be inundated by crappy content. However, I still have a few shows a week I must watch in a timely fashion (via non-cable sources) and then a large DVD library of past seasons that I can use if I feel I need some sort of background activity. My productivity is huge with this set up but I still get to watch my favourites.
- spacehaven 15y agoThe proverbial "this." When friends and family ask if I've seen this or that, I usually reply "no," but if pressed ("Turn on channel 6 now! There's a dog driving a lawn mower!") I politely remind them I don't have a TV. The fact is, I do have a small (wait, 32" is small now?) one in the bedroom, but it's hooked up to AppleTV and Roku, for the sole purpose of putting on podcasts and informational videos (like TED Talks or Khan Academy) to fall asleep to.
- duopixel 15y agoWhen I was six years old my parents decided to move the family to another country, and they left the TV behind (never to buy one again). I've never owned a TV, though I've shared my household with people who would have one in the common area. To this day, TV just absorbs me, I just can't stop watching. I become the caricature of an absent minded drooling zombie. When people speak to me while watching TV I don't respond. When I go to a bar that has any channel on, I zone out of social life. Though I developed what some people might call "good habits" (I picked up cooking and reading as a kid). But I also think TV is culture in it's own merit, in the sense that it's a shared experience. I've seen a lot of people talk about TV shows with great passion, and I'm totally lost on that experience. In the end TV is just a medium, and you choose what to watch. It is true that the quality of most TV shows is appalling (and yet I can't stop looking), but I've found that if I turn it on specifically to watch a show, instead tuning out, I can have a healthy relationship with it.
- tapp 15y ago> To this day, TV just absorbs me, I just can't stop watching. Same here. Having grown up without much TV, I find it absolutely hypnotic when it's on, which is why keeping it off is critical to my productivity. My not owning a TV isn't some form of elitism; I don't keep a TV in the house for the same reason a recovering alcoholic doesn't keep liquor in the house - I can't trust myself with it 24/7. My question is - how do you maintain this discipline in the age of internet video on demand? As PG put it in his essay on distraction, I often feel like sometime in the last few years someone snuck in and put a TV on my desk. I work from home much of the time, and that requires a fast, always-on internet connection. I've been reasonably successful at keeping my bad habits in check to date, but the temptation alone is a regular distraction. I'd be very interested to hear how others deal with this.
- alrs 15y agoThis is exactly my answer to why I don't watch TV. "It's not because I am good, it is because I am a filthy addict who can't handle it."
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- drndown2007 15y agoLOL - lots of folks defending TV :) I completely agree with Josh though. In my case, I haven't watched more than 30 minutes of TV (usually zero) in a week for probably 10 years now. Instead, during the evenings I worked on my business while my spouse watched TV. Now I have a great business to show for all those hours. Don't have anything to show for the TV-watching hours from the previous 10 years though. YMMV (though you'll never know 'til you try it!)
- angusgr 15y agoThe "Redefining Entertainment" part of this post reminded me of this Rands one, about finding what actually relaxes you: http://www.randsinrepose.com/archives/2010/06/22/chill.html http://www.randsinrepose.com/archives/2010/06/22/chill.html (Not that I've tried that technique. Can't find the time with so many things on TV & HN. ;).)
- ccvfv 15y ago> To this day, TV just absorbs me, I just can't stop watching. I become the caricature > of an absent minded drooling zombie.... I can relate. But I've learnt to teach myself that TV is like a drug. It can be very relaxing to "turn your mind off" and "zone out" to TV. Sometimes you have had a long day and feel like you "need" some TV to help relax. The truth is that TV is harmful. It is lazy, bad for your health, unproductive and a massive time waste. What is scary is that you can watch 5 shows in a night and then the next day not remember any of the shows. That is why people watch reruns of TV shows - their mind is basically off the whole time so they can watch the same thing over and over. *(TV is fine and healthy in moderation.)
- KiwiNige 15y ago> I just had a momentary burst of willpower that allowed me to get rid of it. Actually it's taken many bursts of willpower for my family to stay TV free. People keep pushing them on us as soon as they find out we don't have one. My brother in law sent us one for christmas one year despite being told we didn't want one. We gave it away. And it seems like every scond person has an old they want us to have because "you can't not have a TV!"