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Hi, thanks for taking questions. What is the state of the phone call/sms/mms support in Plasma Mobile on Pinephone? Also : will the CE edition be some sort of

Hi, thanks for taking questions. What is the state of the phone call/sms/mms support in Plasma Mobile on Pinephone? Also : will the CE edition be some sort of Neon mobile, or will it be based on PostmarketOS or something?

ognarb 6y ago
Yes it works! SMS and MMS are supported via the application Spacebar. The application got a lot of improvement last months. https://www.plasma-mobile.org/2020/11/12/plasma-mobile-update-october.html https://www.plasma-mobile.org/2020/11/12/plasma-mobile-updat... Calls are also working fine. The only "exception" being one carrier in the USA does not seem to work with ofono (the underlying framework) yet, but that issue was also with the previous UBports edition.
- Happpy 6y ago
  Is there auto call recording? Or on the roadmap.
  - johnchristopher 6y ago
    In Europe, at least in my home country, law mandates some kind of beeps or warnings when recording calls.
    - _wolfie_ 6y ago
      Yes, and you, as an user would be breaking the law. But as far as I understand there is no law that would prevent phones from having this function.
- oriesdan 6y ago
  That's awesome. Great job!
- eckza 6y ago
  This is great news. Biggest question: Can I send SMS, on this phone, from another computer? The biggest reason I ditched my iPhone for Android was the excellent implementation of in-browser messaging, to and from my phone, on any computer with a web browser. I don't need to be able to text from "any computer with a web browser", but if I could send SMS from Win / Mac / Linux machines that I owned, that would be a huge incentive for me to give this platform a shot.
  - TheCraiggers 6y ago
    There is KDE Connect. You can easily respond to texts from that. Barring that, sending a text is a simple one-liner in the terminal. Worst case, you can just run the command via ssh or whatever other workflow you may want.
    - eckza 6y ago
      Beautiful. Thank you so much.
  - ognarb 6y ago
    You can use KDE Connect[1] for send SMS from a Win / Mac or Linux machine. This also works with Android. [1]: https://kdeconnect.kde.org/ https://kdeconnect.kde.org/
    - eckza 6y ago
      This is fantastic. Thank you so much!!
- qchris 6y ago
  I hadn't heard about the new support for MMS, that's fantastic news! It's such an important part of group messaging in the U.S. that not having access to it was a huge blocker for me in terms progress towards daily driver status.
- kop316 6y ago
  Interesting. My Understanding is that MMS is non-fuctional: https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ But I am admittedly more familiar with the Phosh stack versus the KDE stack. Are you then using ofono and that is providing a working MMS support for the Pinephone? (Sorry I am not trying to be confrontational, it would be amazing if MMS works!)
  - kop316 6y ago
    I hate to say, I just tested it and MMS doesn't work on plasma Mobile (PostmarketOS with Plasma Mobile 5.20.3)
  - swiley 6y ago
    MMS doesn't work with modemmanager, it sounds like the OS this ships with uses ofono instead which has MMS support.
    - kop316 6y ago
      So I cannot speak to ofono, but modemmanager largely does support MMS, with two exceptions: - The APN for mobile broadband needs to be the same for MMS (modemmanager does not have support for multiple APNs yet), and - "transfer-route MT messages" aren't implemented (which some carriers use for MMS, but it is not clear for me to how). The larger issue is that there is no stack on phosh to support any of this. I proposed a couple of ideas of how such as stack would work on their git site, but I don't have the time to impliment it. From what I saw with scapebar, it does not have native support to send picture messages (MMS), does not recieve picture messages, and did not have a way to send a group message (MMS). I am admittedly not familiar enough with ofono to know what works or how it functions in the stack. However, there is MMS support in the patched ofono stack below: https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/
- stonogo 6y ago
  Which carrier?

ognarb 6y ago

Yes it works! SMS and MMS are supported via the application Spacebar. The application got a lot of improvement last months. https://www.plasma-mobile.org/2020/11/12/plasma-mobile-update-october.html https://www.plasma-mobile.org/2020/11/12/plasma-mobile-updat... Calls are also working fine. The only "exception" being one carrier in the USA does not seem to work with ofono (the underlying framework) yet, but that issue was also with the previous UBports edition.

Happpy 6y ago
Is there auto call recording? Or on the roadmap.
- johnchristopher 6y ago
  In Europe, at least in my home country, law mandates some kind of beeps or warnings when recording calls.
  - _wolfie_ 6y ago
    Yes, and you, as an user would be breaking the law. But as far as I understand there is no law that would prevent phones from having this function.
oriesdan 6y ago
That's awesome. Great job!
eckza 6y ago
This is great news. Biggest question: Can I send SMS, on this phone, from another computer? The biggest reason I ditched my iPhone for Android was the excellent implementation of in-browser messaging, to and from my phone, on any computer with a web browser. I don't need to be able to text from "any computer with a web browser", but if I could send SMS from Win / Mac / Linux machines that I owned, that would be a huge incentive for me to give this platform a shot.
- TheCraiggers 6y ago
  There is KDE Connect. You can easily respond to texts from that. Barring that, sending a text is a simple one-liner in the terminal. Worst case, you can just run the command via ssh or whatever other workflow you may want.
  - eckza 6y ago
    Beautiful. Thank you so much.
- ognarb 6y ago
  You can use KDE Connect[1] for send SMS from a Win / Mac or Linux machine. This also works with Android. [1]: https://kdeconnect.kde.org/ https://kdeconnect.kde.org/
  - eckza 6y ago
    This is fantastic. Thank you so much!!
qchris 6y ago
I hadn't heard about the new support for MMS, that's fantastic news! It's such an important part of group messaging in the U.S. that not having access to it was a huge blocker for me in terms progress towards daily driver status.
kop316 6y ago
Interesting. My Understanding is that MMS is non-fuctional: https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ But I am admittedly more familiar with the Phosh stack versus the KDE stack. Are you then using ofono and that is providing a working MMS support for the Pinephone? (Sorry I am not trying to be confrontational, it would be amazing if MMS works!)
- kop316 6y ago
  I hate to say, I just tested it and MMS doesn't work on plasma Mobile (PostmarketOS with Plasma Mobile 5.20.3)
- swiley 6y ago
  MMS doesn't work with modemmanager, it sounds like the OS this ships with uses ofono instead which has MMS support.
  - kop316 6y ago
    So I cannot speak to ofono, but modemmanager largely does support MMS, with two exceptions: - The APN for mobile broadband needs to be the same for MMS (modemmanager does not have support for multiple APNs yet), and - "transfer-route MT messages" aren't implemented (which some carriers use for MMS, but it is not clear for me to how). The larger issue is that there is no stack on phosh to support any of this. I proposed a couple of ideas of how such as stack would work on their git site, but I don't have the time to impliment it. From what I saw with scapebar, it does not have native support to send picture messages (MMS), does not recieve picture messages, and did not have a way to send a group message (MMS). I am admittedly not familiar enough with ofono to know what works or how it functions in the stack. However, there is MMS support in the patched ofono stack below: https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/
stonogo 6y ago
Which carrier?