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Is it hard to understand why people are disgusted by him? If you can't acknowledge that, it's hard to have a conversation at all. His type of behavior and lang

Is it hard to understand why people are disgusted by him? If you can't acknowledge that, it's hard to have a conversation at all. His type of behavior and language brings out hate and revulsion in even the kindest people. If you don't get it, I don't know what to say. It has nothing to do with his politics or policy stances, it has to do with his behavior.

commandlinefan 6y ago
Disgusted? No, I really don't see it. He's a bit of (ok a lot of) a hot-head, and definitely not politically correct, but otherwise he's not that much different than past presidents besides actually saying what he's thinking.
- Goladus 6y ago
  This post is being downvoted to protect the echo chamber. No dissent is allowed, even on an obviously subjective matter such as interpretation of a public figure's behavior.
  - rootusrootus 6y ago
    We have reached a low place when 'grab em by the pussy' is open to subjective interpretation.
    - deadly_syn 6y ago
      I don't think they were explicitly trying to interpret that term specifically, the vibe I got was that a person's character is open to interpretation. If 'grab em by the pussy' is what you wanna focus on specifically that's your deal. But there are other facets outside of just the use of that phrase. I'm not saying it was proper or the right thing to say but in context of discourse it intellectually disingenuous to use that as an excuse to shut down an entire conversation
    - googthrowaway42 6y ago
      Imagine being such a complete humorless loser that you never say anything like that in private amongst your male friends
- godelski 6y ago
  Let's set politics aside and look at how Trump's behavior can be considered, as lenitabinol said, disgusting. I'm surprised this isn't apparent. You even note how he isn't politically correct. You don't understand how people don't like that? Or do you not understand that people don't think leaders should be tweeting out their random thoughts like an average person? You aren't being downvoted because echo chamber, you're being downvoted for either trolling or being dense. But if that doesn't do it we can see things like: - Making fun of a disabled person - Saying Mexico is "not sending their best, but their worst" i.e. rapists and drug dealers. - "Grab 'em by the pussy" - Calling people dumb, ugly, or other demeaning terms on national television. Including world leaders. - Hanging out with Epstein. - Having difficult times answering softball questions like "Do you denounce White Nationalism?" Just say yes. Not "I don't know who you're talking about" not "Who?" Just say "I don't support White Nationalists." Full stop. Could even say "I don't support Nazis." or "I don't support the KKK." But just blabbing on makes people think he's dodging the question and not honest. He does this on many things, even when it is clear he isn't lying which makes people uncomfortable with him. I can provide sources for all these things and many more, but it is pretty easy to find and all these things have made the national coverage many times over the last year so it is assumed that you're aware. What I don't understand is how you don't understand how someone might be offended by any single one of these events.
  - apta 6y ago
    > Having difficult times answering softball questions like "Do you denounce White Nationalism?" Just say yes. He already explicitly did. But the left doesn't seem to comprehend and they keep asking it over and over. It's unbelievable really.
  - nick_gur 6y ago
    Quiet down negro, you're being too uppity
  - zalkota 6y ago
    I’m voting for politics not his personality. The bottom line is that he does the things he says he’s gonna do. Look at his policy. He doesn’t sell out yo foreign governments like the Biden’s and Clinton’s.
Goladus 6y ago
His type of behavior and language brings out hate and revulsion in even the kindest people. From what I see, the hate and revulsion is brought out primarily by confirmation bias due to (a) subjective reporting on his behavior and language and (b) gaps in factual knowledge. I assume there are people who are legitimately repulsed by his behavior, but I never see people actually explain themselves clearly. They always engage in question-begging and other fallacies and misdirection, as you are now. You state that Trump's behavior is reprehensible, but do not allow that position to be challenged and provide no argument at all in support of your statement. If you don't know how to apply discipline and empirical methods to have a discussion in a detached and productive manner, then yes you are going to have a very hard time with conversations with people who don't share your biases. And if you can just downvote, censor, and otherwise dismiss/marginalize/deplatform the person challenging your bias, you will never learn the truth.
- beamatronic 6y ago
  When he mocked the disabled reporter, that should have been the end of it.
  - apta 6y ago
    That's been disproven.
    - evanlivingston 6y ago
      I tried looking up how this has been disproven but couldn't find anything. Can you link?
      - apta 6y ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsaB3ynIZH4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsaB3ynIZH4
        evanlivingston 6y ago
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commandlinefan 6y ago

Disgusted? No, I really don't see it. He's a bit of (ok a lot of) a hot-head, and definitely not politically correct, but otherwise he's not that much different than past presidents besides actually saying what he's thinking.

Goladus 6y ago
This post is being downvoted to protect the echo chamber. No dissent is allowed, even on an obviously subjective matter such as interpretation of a public figure's behavior.
- rootusrootus 6y ago
  We have reached a low place when 'grab em by the pussy' is open to subjective interpretation.
  - deadly_syn 6y ago
    I don't think they were explicitly trying to interpret that term specifically, the vibe I got was that a person's character is open to interpretation. If 'grab em by the pussy' is what you wanna focus on specifically that's your deal. But there are other facets outside of just the use of that phrase. I'm not saying it was proper or the right thing to say but in context of discourse it intellectually disingenuous to use that as an excuse to shut down an entire conversation
  - googthrowaway42 6y ago
    Imagine being such a complete humorless loser that you never say anything like that in private amongst your male friends
godelski 6y ago
Let's set politics aside and look at how Trump's behavior can be considered, as lenitabinol said, disgusting. I'm surprised this isn't apparent. You even note how he isn't politically correct. You don't understand how people don't like that? Or do you not understand that people don't think leaders should be tweeting out their random thoughts like an average person? You aren't being downvoted because echo chamber, you're being downvoted for either trolling or being dense. But if that doesn't do it we can see things like: - Making fun of a disabled person - Saying Mexico is "not sending their best, but their worst" i.e. rapists and drug dealers. - "Grab 'em by the pussy" - Calling people dumb, ugly, or other demeaning terms on national television. Including world leaders. - Hanging out with Epstein. - Having difficult times answering softball questions like "Do you denounce White Nationalism?" Just say yes. Not "I don't know who you're talking about" not "Who?" Just say "I don't support White Nationalists." Full stop. Could even say "I don't support Nazis." or "I don't support the KKK." But just blabbing on makes people think he's dodging the question and not honest. He does this on many things, even when it is clear he isn't lying which makes people uncomfortable with him. I can provide sources for all these things and many more, but it is pretty easy to find and all these things have made the national coverage many times over the last year so it is assumed that you're aware. What I don't understand is how you don't understand how someone might be offended by any single one of these events.
- apta 6y ago
  > Having difficult times answering softball questions like "Do you denounce White Nationalism?" Just say yes. He already explicitly did. But the left doesn't seem to comprehend and they keep asking it over and over. It's unbelievable really.
- nick_gur 6y ago
  Quiet down negro, you're being too uppity
- zalkota 6y ago
  I’m voting for politics not his personality. The bottom line is that he does the things he says he’s gonna do. Look at his policy. He doesn’t sell out yo foreign governments like the Biden’s and Clinton’s.

Goladus 6y ago

His type of behavior and language brings out hate and revulsion in even the kindest people. From what I see, the hate and revulsion is brought out primarily by confirmation bias due to (a) subjective reporting on his behavior and language and (b) gaps in factual knowledge. I assume there are people who are legitimately repulsed by his behavior, but I never see people actually explain themselves clearly. They always engage in question-begging and other fallacies and misdirection, as you are now. You state that Trump's behavior is reprehensible, but do not allow that position to be challenged and provide no argument at all in support of your statement. If you don't know how to apply discipline and empirical methods to have a discussion in a detached and productive manner, then yes you are going to have a very hard time with conversations with people who don't share your biases. And if you can just downvote, censor, and otherwise dismiss/marginalize/deplatform the person challenging your bias, you will never learn the truth.

beamatronic 6y ago
When he mocked the disabled reporter, that should have been the end of it.
- apta 6y ago
  That's been disproven.
  - evanlivingston 6y ago
    I tried looking up how this has been disproven but couldn't find anything. Can you link?
    - apta 6y ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsaB3ynIZH4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsaB3ynIZH4
      - evanlivingston 6y ago

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