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No, not really sufficient. Official Government Policy > populist slogans.
by fit2rule 6y ago
No, not really sufficient.
Official Government Policy > populist slogans.
- Ancapistani 6y agoThe very next line: > Ayatollah Khomeini, the first leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, popularized the term.
- fit2rule 6y agoEDIT: lets be clear, what the Ayatollah himself thinks about this slogan: “It goes without saying that the slogan does not mean death to the American nation; this slogan means death to the US’s policies, death to arrogance,” he said. Was it made official government policy? If so, what's the policy - I'd truly like to read it. Because plenty of American politicians have said extremely hateful, despicable things about Iran too - is this cause for their censorship? If we are to measure things by populist slogans, America should have been glass parking lot'ed by the countries it has slandered and heaped hatred on, decades ago. I'm pretty sure this is a moral conundrum that American's are ill-equipped to respond to... Or is it the same old "might makes right" argument that keeps being proffered in these stupid agitprop articles? So this situation provides quite clear evidence of the lengths that very real war-mongers will go to in order to provide justification for their heinous acts. Not only is censorship occurring, but downright lies too. EDIT2: No, war-mongers. YOU give it a rest.
- Ancapistani 6y agoThe government of Iran includes it in murals in Teheran. An Iran-sponsored rebel group include the phrase in their flag. > Tehran Radio, monitored in Nicosia on Tuesday, dubbed Nov. 4 ″Death to America Day.″ https://apnews.com/article/349374a3c1c5a4ec6c3fbefd1ac3f2ae https://apnews.com/article/349374a3c1c5a4ec6c3fbefd1ac3f2ae How could it be any more official?
- fit2rule 6y agoTehran Radio != Sovereign Iranian Government policy. The Ahatollah also had this, very specifically, to say about the slogan: "It goes without saying that the slogan does not mean death to the American nation; this slogan means death to the US’s policies, death to arrogance,” he said."
- dsabanin 6y agoGive it a rest, your argument is dead. You asked for a proof you got it, you asked for a different one, you got it, now you're just grasping for the straws. Everyone who is at least a tiny bit interested in the world politics have heard plenty of death to America speeches from the horse's mouth.
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- fit2rule 6y agoWhy don't you give the war-monger routine a rest: “It goes without saying that the slogan does not mean death to the American nation; this slogan means death to the US’s policies, death to arrogance,” [the Ayatollah] said.
- reducesuffering 6y agoThis is a classic Motte and Bailey[0]. Do you think most of the radicals within Iran that agree with the slogan are giving it the nuanced “we don’t really mean...” The leadership knows what tensions they’re stoking and then hide behind a poor excuse when they know the nuance reaches nobody. The nuance is a geopolitical cover. Will you also be ok with thousands in America chanting “death to Iran”, as long as the POTUS says “we really mean death to Iran’s policies, we wish them well, we just want them to change.”? [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_castle https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_castle
- fit2rule 6y agoIf Iran are morally reprehensible for making this slogan a thing, then what exactly makes America's own violent radical religious fringe elements chanting "Bomb Iran, bomb bomb Iran" acceptable? This double standard is exactly why America is despised. You cannot claim the moral high road while, literally, pouring billions of dollars into funding ISIS in the region.