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I will offer a personal take on keeping politics out of my 1-man video game company. In theory, I am all for it. I do not use hashtags on twitter, or openly su

by ldd 6y ago

I will offer a personal take on keeping politics out of my 1-man video game company. In theory, I am all for it. I do not use hashtags on twitter, or openly support any ideologies. However, as a light brown dude whose parents immigrated here to Canada, my existence itself is a political statement (in support of legal immigration) that is bound to offend people. I try, to the extent that is possible, to not say political statements on twitter, but I am only human. And for many humans, existing itself is a political statement. I sometimes feel like a platypus. There are plenty of taxonomist that want me dead. There are plenty of well intentioned people that will protest for me to keep my rights to exist while never getting close to me. And all I wanna do is keep platypusing every day. It's just hard to do that in deeply divisive times, I guess.

_fat_santa 6y ago
Just keep in mind Twitter is a piss poor reflection of society. There are some radical ideas on Twitter, but ask people in person what they actually think and everyone will sing a different tune.
- PragmaticPulp 6y ago
  This is one of the bigger problems I encountered when mentoring junior engineers: Many of them grew up consuming a firehose of hyperbolic Twitter and Reddit content, thinking that it was an accurate representation of the real world. Worse yet, some of them essentially learned their social skills from Twitter debates and Reddit threads, mistaking angry online arguments for normal adult conversation. Fortunately, most of them are quick to pick up on the reality that they’ve been misled, but a small minority try to turn the workplace into an extension of a Twitter flame war at every opportunity.
  - secondcoming 6y ago
    I was thinking about this recently. They're probably the first (?) generation where online social interaction consists of a very large part of their overall social interactions. The online world is place where people can be ignored/blocked/shadowbanned. Then they venture out into the real world for Uni and find they don't have these censorship tools at their disposal, and don't have the skills to handle it properly.
lliamander 6y ago
> my existence itself is a political statement (in support of legal immigration) Unless those in your country who are opposed to immigration literally want you dead, this is a pretty hyperbolic statement.
- adamjb 6y ago
  One can oppose the existence of something on the basis of its location while not being opposed to its existence generally. See: NIMBYs.
  - lliamander 6y ago
    The mainstream "anti-immigration" position is about curtailing future immigration, rather than removing current immigrants. The objection isn't to the presence of the immigrants per se, but rather the consequences of continuing the flow of people on the labor market and on cultural cohesion.
    - renewiltord 6y ago
      Sure, and as a brown guy in Canada he's fine. But if he were in the US and it were all about "curtailing future immigration" you could easily turn off green cards and deport a quarter million Indians who have lived in America for ten years on temporary visas. Yeah, it's all about the future thing there. Give me a break.
      - lliamander 6y ago
        Sounds to me like the "temporary" visa system has been greatly abused by employers looking for cheap labor and needs to be fixed so that people who wish to make life in the U.S. aren't left in limbo for so long.
        renewiltord 6y ago
        Sure, that's your stance and I won't attempt to change your mind. I just needed to clarify that you are requesting taking actions that will result in the deportation of a large number of immigrants currently residing in the US. It was important to me that that caveat was applied to > The mainstream "anti-immigration" position is about curtailing future immigration, rather than removing current immigrants. So that it is clear that removing current immigrants resident in the US under dual-intent visas is part of the mainstream position.

by ldd 6y ago

_fat_santa 6y ago

Just keep in mind Twitter is a piss poor reflection of society. There are some radical ideas on Twitter, but ask people in person what they actually think and everyone will sing a different tune.

PragmaticPulp 6y ago
This is one of the bigger problems I encountered when mentoring junior engineers: Many of them grew up consuming a firehose of hyperbolic Twitter and Reddit content, thinking that it was an accurate representation of the real world. Worse yet, some of them essentially learned their social skills from Twitter debates and Reddit threads, mistaking angry online arguments for normal adult conversation. Fortunately, most of them are quick to pick up on the reality that they’ve been misled, but a small minority try to turn the workplace into an extension of a Twitter flame war at every opportunity.
- secondcoming 6y ago
  I was thinking about this recently. They're probably the first (?) generation where online social interaction consists of a very large part of their overall social interactions. The online world is place where people can be ignored/blocked/shadowbanned. Then they venture out into the real world for Uni and find they don't have these censorship tools at their disposal, and don't have the skills to handle it properly.

lliamander 6y ago

> my existence itself is a political statement (in support of legal immigration) Unless those in your country who are opposed to immigration literally want you dead, this is a pretty hyperbolic statement.

adamjb 6y ago
One can oppose the existence of something on the basis of its location while not being opposed to its existence generally. See: NIMBYs.
- lliamander 6y ago
  The mainstream "anti-immigration" position is about curtailing future immigration, rather than removing current immigrants. The objection isn't to the presence of the immigrants per se, but rather the consequences of continuing the flow of people on the labor market and on cultural cohesion.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    Sure, and as a brown guy in Canada he's fine. But if he were in the US and it were all about "curtailing future immigration" you could easily turn off green cards and deport a quarter million Indians who have lived in America for ten years on temporary visas. Yeah, it's all about the future thing there. Give me a break.
    - lliamander 6y ago
      Sounds to me like the "temporary" visa system has been greatly abused by employers looking for cheap labor and needs to be fixed so that people who wish to make life in the U.S. aren't left in limbo for so long.
      - renewiltord 6y ago
        Sure, that's your stance and I won't attempt to change your mind. I just needed to clarify that you are requesting taking actions that will result in the deportation of a large number of immigrants currently residing in the US. It was important to me that that caveat was applied to > The mainstream "anti-immigration" position is about curtailing future immigration, rather than removing current immigrants. So that it is clear that removing current immigrants resident in the US under dual-intent visas is part of the mainstream position.