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the next release of Crystal will also be 1.0 too. https://crystal-lang.org/ https://crystal-lang.org/

by sdwisely 6y ago

radiospiel 6y ago
I remember they said that already 2 years ago. :(
block_dagger 6y ago
Crystal has no metaprogramming. Lang is far less useful than Ruby imo, doesn’t deserve equal comparison.
- 1337_d00dZ 6y ago
  It has metaprogramming via macros: https://crystal-lang.org/reference/syntax_and_semantics/macros.html https://crystal-lang.org/reference/syntax_and_semantics/macr...
  - block_dagger 6y ago
    True, but one of the selling points of Ruby to begin with is runtime metaprogramming. Sure, it should generally be discouraged, but when it's heavily utilized by ecosystems like Rails, it becomes a primary feature that macros do not adequately address.
    - brigandish 6y ago
      Are you saying it's a primary feature for Rails or for Ruby? I can't think of an example where it's a primary feature for a user of Rails but I usually avoid it in favour of better tools so I might not know of them. Perhaps you know of some?
      - sourdoughness 6y ago
        Rails leans on meta programming for a lot of its magic (though less so than it used to in early versions). You don’t generally use it as a user of Rails, though.
        brigandish 6y ago
        Then I don't see how they're any better than macros in that situation.
- realusername 6y ago
  It does have metaprogramming, only at compile time. Crystal metaprogramming is very advanced as well, you could even create methods dynamically from a JSON file if you wanted to.
faitswulff 6y ago
Crystal is a great language that has learned a lot from Ruby. I'm excited to see where it goes. I think one area where it doesn't measure up to Ruby, however, is Windows support, which they've decided to forgo for the 1.0 milestone [0]. That said, I'm excited to pick up Crystal someday. What are some good niches you've found for it? [0]: https://crystal-lang.org/2020/03/03/towards-crystal-1.0.html#what-can-wait---after-10 https://crystal-lang.org/2020/03/03/towards-crystal-1.0.html...

the next release of Crystal will also be 1.0 too. https://crystal-lang.org/ https://crystal-lang.org/

radiospiel 6y ago

I remember they said that already 2 years ago. :(

block_dagger 6y ago

Crystal has no metaprogramming. Lang is far less useful than Ruby imo, doesn’t deserve equal comparison.

1337_d00dZ 6y ago
It has metaprogramming via macros: https://crystal-lang.org/reference/syntax_and_semantics/macros.html https://crystal-lang.org/reference/syntax_and_semantics/macr...
- block_dagger 6y ago
  True, but one of the selling points of Ruby to begin with is runtime metaprogramming. Sure, it should generally be discouraged, but when it's heavily utilized by ecosystems like Rails, it becomes a primary feature that macros do not adequately address.
  - brigandish 6y ago
    Are you saying it's a primary feature for Rails or for Ruby? I can't think of an example where it's a primary feature for a user of Rails but I usually avoid it in favour of better tools so I might not know of them. Perhaps you know of some?
    - sourdoughness 6y ago
      Rails leans on meta programming for a lot of its magic (though less so than it used to in early versions). You don’t generally use it as a user of Rails, though.
      - brigandish 6y ago
        Then I don't see how they're any better than macros in that situation.
realusername 6y ago
It does have metaprogramming, only at compile time. Crystal metaprogramming is very advanced as well, you could even create methods dynamically from a JSON file if you wanted to.

faitswulff 6y ago

Crystal is a great language that has learned a lot from Ruby. I'm excited to see where it goes. I think one area where it doesn't measure up to Ruby, however, is Windows support, which they've decided to forgo for the 1.0 milestone [0]. That said, I'm excited to pick up Crystal someday. What are some good niches you've found for it? [0]: https://crystal-lang.org/2020/03/03/towards-crystal-1.0.html#what-can-wait---after-10 https://crystal-lang.org/2020/03/03/towards-crystal-1.0.html...