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How is that tax fraud? You pay federal taxes anywhere in the world you live as an American citizen.

dominotw 6y ago
ok i work 100% remote, can I claim my sisters address in Texas in texas for my payroll and actaully live in new york? I am genuinely curious. This will save me tens and thousands of dollars every year if this isn't fraud. why the downvotes, i don't get it.
- throwaway894345 6y ago
  Lying about your address is tax fraud, but no one is talking about that...
- jsjohnst 6y ago
  > ok i work 100% remote, can I claim my sisters address in Texas in texas for my payroll and actaully live in new york? That’s an entirely different issue. Yes, New York state will likely take issue with the scenario you describe, but not at the federal level (what this thread is about). Further nobody, but you, was indicating lying about their address.
  - dominotw 6y ago
    > That’s an entirely different issue. how is it different? OP is claiming an address in USA for payroll as his residence but it isn't actually his residence. How is this not fraud.
    - jsjohnst 6y ago
      Reread their post again, there is no mention of lying about their address to their employer. Based on your other comments, it seems you assume that all employers wouldn’t maintain a salary if someone moves, which isn’t true (yes, it’s common for employers to adjust salaries for that reason, but it’s not an automatic given).
      - dominotw 6y ago
        Really shocked by this. I had no idea there are employers who doesn't adjust your salary from US salary if you move to an entirely different country. all the examples i know of like gitlab, mozilla ect adjust it to local country comp. anyone know if such an employer actually exists in US?
        jsjohnst 6y ago
        > anyone know if such an employer actually exists in US? Yes. I’ve personally seen it happen multiple times at different employers, each with unique factors. There are way to many factors at play here to make broad assumptions that no employer does it... - first and foremost, Covid changed everything when it comes to remote salary norms - Duration of move (some employers would be more lenient for 6-12mo vs permanent move) - level of seniority (which correlates somewhat with how hard it is to replace said employee if employer says no) - how long as the employee worked for employer (another factor in how much it impacts employer if employee moves anyway and goes to work for another company) - how bad the employer wants to retain said employee (Multiple previous emplayers, big and small, have made exceptions for specific coworkers) - it’s important enough to mention again, Covid changed everything.
        dominotw 6y ago
        > There are way to many factors at play here to make broad assumptions that no employer does it... Yes you can make broad assumptions that almost no hr, payroll, legal dept of any company is setup to deal with taxes, labor laws ect across hundreds of different countries. Yes exceptions exist. > - it’s important enough to mention again, Covid changed everything. No it didn't. Do you have even a single example of an employer thats allowing ppl work longterm from whichever country they please due to covid?
        pault 6y ago
        In my case, a company called Pathable based out of Seattle, a company called Optify based out of Seattle, and a company called iCracked based out of San Francisco. I don't know what the heads of their HR departments would say if you asked them, but everyone I worked with was aware of my situation and no one ever questioned it.
    - throwaway894345 6y ago
      OP is not claiming an address in USA.
    - sokoloff 6y ago
      citation needed (that OP is claiming a US address as residence).
      - dominotw 6y ago
        > cushy US salary What exactly does this mean. then?
        sokoloff 6y ago
        The salary typically paid to a US-based employee. It's a number, not a latitude-longitude coordinate.
        dominotw 6y ago
        > It's a number What range of numbers qualify as 'cushy US salary'. This is really absurd to classify range of numbers as 'us salary' , 'indian salary' ect.
        sokoloff 6y ago
        If I tell you just two things: Person A is a software engineer making a US salary. Person B is a software engineer making an Indian salary. Do you have any reasonable suspicion as to which person is making more? I think most people do.
        jsjohnst 6y ago
        Means a well paid job from a US company. There’s no implication of fraud there.

ok i work 100% remote, can I claim my sisters address in Texas in texas for my payroll and actaully live in new york? I am genuinely curious. This will save me tens and thousands of dollars every year if this isn't fraud. why the downvotes, i don't get it.

throwaway894345 6y ago
Lying about your address is tax fraud, but no one is talking about that...
jsjohnst 6y ago
> ok i work 100% remote, can I claim my sisters address in Texas in texas for my payroll and actaully live in new york? That’s an entirely different issue. Yes, New York state will likely take issue with the scenario you describe, but not at the federal level (what this thread is about). Further nobody, but you, was indicating lying about their address.
- dominotw 6y ago
  > That’s an entirely different issue. how is it different? OP is claiming an address in USA for payroll as his residence but it isn't actually his residence. How is this not fraud.
  - jsjohnst 6y ago
    Reread their post again, there is no mention of lying about their address to their employer. Based on your other comments, it seems you assume that all employers wouldn’t maintain a salary if someone moves, which isn’t true (yes, it’s common for employers to adjust salaries for that reason, but it’s not an automatic given).
    - dominotw 6y ago
      Really shocked by this. I had no idea there are employers who doesn't adjust your salary from US salary if you move to an entirely different country. all the examples i know of like gitlab, mozilla ect adjust it to local country comp. anyone know if such an employer actually exists in US?
      - jsjohnst 6y ago
        > anyone know if such an employer actually exists in US? Yes. I’ve personally seen it happen multiple times at different employers, each with unique factors. There are way to many factors at play here to make broad assumptions that no employer does it... - first and foremost, Covid changed everything when it comes to remote salary norms - Duration of move (some employers would be more lenient for 6-12mo vs permanent move) - level of seniority (which correlates somewhat with how hard it is to replace said employee if employer says no) - how long as the employee worked for employer (another factor in how much it impacts employer if employee moves anyway and goes to work for another company) - how bad the employer wants to retain said employee (Multiple previous emplayers, big and small, have made exceptions for specific coworkers) - it’s important enough to mention again, Covid changed everything.
        dominotw 6y ago
        > There are way to many factors at play here to make broad assumptions that no employer does it... Yes you can make broad assumptions that almost no hr, payroll, legal dept of any company is setup to deal with taxes, labor laws ect across hundreds of different countries. Yes exceptions exist. > - it’s important enough to mention again, Covid changed everything. No it didn't. Do you have even a single example of an employer thats allowing ppl work longterm from whichever country they please due to covid?
        pault 6y ago
        In my case, a company called Pathable based out of Seattle, a company called Optify based out of Seattle, and a company called iCracked based out of San Francisco. I don't know what the heads of their HR departments would say if you asked them, but everyone I worked with was aware of my situation and no one ever questioned it.
  - throwaway894345 6y ago
    OP is not claiming an address in USA.
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    citation needed (that OP is claiming a US address as residence).
    - dominotw 6y ago
      > cushy US salary What exactly does this mean. then?
      - sokoloff 6y ago
        The salary typically paid to a US-based employee. It's a number, not a latitude-longitude coordinate.
        dominotw 6y ago
        > It's a number What range of numbers qualify as 'cushy US salary'. This is really absurd to classify range of numbers as 'us salary' , 'indian salary' ect.
        sokoloff 6y ago
        If I tell you just two things: Person A is a software engineer making a US salary. Person B is a software engineer making an Indian salary. Do you have any reasonable suspicion as to which person is making more? I think most people do.
      - jsjohnst 6y ago
        Means a well paid job from a US company. There’s no implication of fraud there.