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It correlates with education, income, etc. because it serves basically as a literacy test. (As in, very low IQ means you fail at most measurable things.) Once y

It correlates with education, income, etc. because it serves basically as a literacy test. (As in, very low IQ means you fail at most measurable things.) Once you condition on IQ>110, the correlation disappears.

rodonn 6y ago
Do you have a source for this claim? Here are two survey articles with a lot of evidence about all the different outcomes that are strongly correlated with IQ. https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2015-strenze.pdf https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2015-strenze.pdf https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2007-strenze.pdf https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2007-strenze.pdf Specifically, when looking at people with IQ above 110, it seems like the correlations are still there at least for PhD level science. Most fields have average IQs above 130: http://www.religjournal.com/pdf/ijrr10001.pdf http://www.religjournal.com/pdf/ijrr10001.pdf One thing I didn't know initially is that IQ tests are normalized so the mean is 100 and the standard deviation is 10. If we assume IQ is normally distributed (not exactly true, but roughly accurate), then IQ of 110 puts you in the top 33% of the population. IQ of 130 puts you in the top 0.3%.
- remote_phone 6y ago
  > One thing I didn't know initially is that IQ tests are normalized so the mean is 100 and the standard deviation is 10. No, the standard deviation is 15 IQ points, not 10. 130 puts you in the top 2%. I know this because my kid scored in the < 0.02%. On the other hand, IQ tests are highly correlated to how much you prepare for them, which is why rich families score higher. There was a tutor on Reddit for private schools admissions who said she had never had a student who didn’t surpass the entrance qualifications for a standardized test. It’s very easily gameable.
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AgentMatt 6y ago
Interesting! Can you point to have any sources for that?

rodonn 6y ago

Do you have a source for this claim? Here are two survey articles with a lot of evidence about all the different outcomes that are strongly correlated with IQ. https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2015-strenze.pdf https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2015-strenze.pdf https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2007-strenze.pdf https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2007-strenze.pdf Specifically, when looking at people with IQ above 110, it seems like the correlations are still there at least for PhD level science. Most fields have average IQs above 130: http://www.religjournal.com/pdf/ijrr10001.pdf http://www.religjournal.com/pdf/ijrr10001.pdf One thing I didn't know initially is that IQ tests are normalized so the mean is 100 and the standard deviation is 10. If we assume IQ is normally distributed (not exactly true, but roughly accurate), then IQ of 110 puts you in the top 33% of the population. IQ of 130 puts you in the top 0.3%.

remote_phone 6y ago
> One thing I didn't know initially is that IQ tests are normalized so the mean is 100 and the standard deviation is 10. No, the standard deviation is 15 IQ points, not 10. 130 puts you in the top 2%. I know this because my kid scored in the < 0.02%. On the other hand, IQ tests are highly correlated to how much you prepare for them, which is why rich families score higher. There was a tutor on Reddit for private schools admissions who said she had never had a student who didn’t surpass the entrance qualifications for a standardized test. It’s very easily gameable.
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AgentMatt 6y ago

Interesting! Can you point to have any sources for that?