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> but I can't reproduce either behavior myself Me neither. manOS Catalina, Version 10.15.5. Safari Version 13.1.1 (15609.2.9.1.2) EDIT: Still can't get used

> but I can't reproduce either behavior myself Me neither. manOS Catalina, Version 10.15.5. Safari Version 13.1.1 (15609.2.9.1.2) EDIT: Still can't get used to Safari's URL completion behaviour. It is completely unnatural and hard to feel as useful, unlike chrome's which is very handy and behaves like I expect.

diminish 6y ago
Apple is targeting the average user as usual and breaking the world wide web standards.
piyush_soni 6y ago
Shh ... Don't give them ideas, or else very soon Safari might be converted to a Chromium based browser as well :P - and that will be the end of browser war forever (yeah, Firefox is giving a tough fight but not in terms of market share).
- nl 6y ago
  Well they are already both Webkit and that aspect is the problem (yes I know about Blink vs Webkit, but still).
  - piyush_soni 6y ago
    Yes, I know it's webkit based, but not entirely Chromium based like Microsoft Edge is. And as you already know Chromium is Blink based now.
om2 6y ago
Any specific feedback on completion behaviors that feel wrong?
- foolmeonce 6y ago
  I recently ran into input fields being autocorrected and autocapitalized at 2 different levels (disabled it with an attribute and this caused a delayed capitalization by autocorrect instead of an immediate one) by safari in the iOS emulator.. Luckily the field in question was an actual email so I could fix it by changing the type, since all the official and apple custom attributes I tried failed to turn off the correction.. I would like the security of a non-android device, but using apple products is utterly infuriating with all the damn "help" missfiring all the time.
  - om2 6y ago
    Input fields is a different thing than the location field. Please file that one too, if you have a reproducible case of autocorrect/autocapitalize that you don't expect.
- Whitespace 6y ago
  Visit a url with the same work in the title and the url, ie https://github.com/Whitespace/Glome https://github.com/Whitespace/Glome Close safari and reopen it. Type in "Whitespace" then "Bookmarks and History" shows up. Highlight a result, then go to the end of the line and delete that work, thinking you'll be editing the url directly to get: https://github.com/Whitespace https://github.com/Whitespace It matches on the title and allows you to edit that, leaving you with the option to search on "Whitespace/glome: Glome! Powered by " which is extremely baffling. My expectation is that it matches the url and allows me to edit it, which is something I do very often for github repos: type the name of the user, highlight a history result so https://github.com/ https://github.com/ is filled out, then option delete the repo and type in the one I want to go to.
  - om2 6y ago
    Thanks for the specific example!
- PostPlummer 6y ago
  I like to start typing whatever I'm looking for, in the browser bar. There a list will be populated with "suggestions" which I like to use (arrow down) to extent my search query and add some more words. Safari expects me to "arrow right" or my (more or less) carefully crafted search will be auto removed (since the text will be "selected"). I fall for this x times per day (probably says more about me then about safari). Chrome will allow me to move to one of the suggestions and happily append my text without the need to "deselect" the text. But there are more "usability" issues with Safari: Why is the "x" to close a tab, on the left instead of right? Why do I need to press the ALT key to get the option to open a link in private mode (after a right click on the link)? Why can I not drag a URL to a bookmark folder directly? Why can I not re-attach a browser window as a tab in an open window?
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    > Why is the "x" to close a tab, on the left instead of right? Why do I need to press the ALT key to get the option to open a link in private mode (after a right click on the link)? I think these are both just macOS convention. > Why can I not re-attach a browser window as a tab in an open window? This seems to work for me?
- gentleman11 6y ago
  Never autocomplete a URL, just offer suggestions that the user can select manually
lupinglade 6y ago
A separate search and URL field would be nice, it’s just not the same thing. Issues with autocomplete and with copy and paste abound.

diminish 6y ago

Apple is targeting the average user as usual and breaking the world wide web standards.

piyush_soni 6y ago

Shh ... Don't give them ideas, or else very soon Safari might be converted to a Chromium based browser as well :P - and that will be the end of browser war forever (yeah, Firefox is giving a tough fight but not in terms of market share).

nl 6y ago
Well they are already both Webkit and that aspect is the problem (yes I know about Blink vs Webkit, but still).
- piyush_soni 6y ago
  Yes, I know it's webkit based, but not entirely Chromium based like Microsoft Edge is. And as you already know Chromium is Blink based now.

om2 6y ago

Any specific feedback on completion behaviors that feel wrong?

foolmeonce 6y ago
I recently ran into input fields being autocorrected and autocapitalized at 2 different levels (disabled it with an attribute and this caused a delayed capitalization by autocorrect instead of an immediate one) by safari in the iOS emulator.. Luckily the field in question was an actual email so I could fix it by changing the type, since all the official and apple custom attributes I tried failed to turn off the correction.. I would like the security of a non-android device, but using apple products is utterly infuriating with all the damn "help" missfiring all the time.
- om2 6y ago
  Input fields is a different thing than the location field. Please file that one too, if you have a reproducible case of autocorrect/autocapitalize that you don't expect.
Whitespace 6y ago
Visit a url with the same work in the title and the url, ie https://github.com/Whitespace/Glome https://github.com/Whitespace/Glome Close safari and reopen it. Type in "Whitespace" then "Bookmarks and History" shows up. Highlight a result, then go to the end of the line and delete that work, thinking you'll be editing the url directly to get: https://github.com/Whitespace https://github.com/Whitespace It matches on the title and allows you to edit that, leaving you with the option to search on "Whitespace/glome: Glome! Powered by " which is extremely baffling. My expectation is that it matches the url and allows me to edit it, which is something I do very often for github repos: type the name of the user, highlight a history result so https://github.com/ https://github.com/ is filled out, then option delete the repo and type in the one I want to go to.
- om2 6y ago
  Thanks for the specific example!
PostPlummer 6y ago
I like to start typing whatever I'm looking for, in the browser bar. There a list will be populated with "suggestions" which I like to use (arrow down) to extent my search query and add some more words. Safari expects me to "arrow right" or my (more or less) carefully crafted search will be auto removed (since the text will be "selected"). I fall for this x times per day (probably says more about me then about safari). Chrome will allow me to move to one of the suggestions and happily append my text without the need to "deselect" the text. But there are more "usability" issues with Safari: Why is the "x" to close a tab, on the left instead of right? Why do I need to press the ALT key to get the option to open a link in private mode (after a right click on the link)? Why can I not drag a URL to a bookmark folder directly? Why can I not re-attach a browser window as a tab in an open window?
- saagarjha 6y ago
  > Why is the "x" to close a tab, on the left instead of right? Why do I need to press the ALT key to get the option to open a link in private mode (after a right click on the link)? I think these are both just macOS convention. > Why can I not re-attach a browser window as a tab in an open window? This seems to work for me?
gentleman11 6y ago
Never autocomplete a URL, just offer suggestions that the user can select manually

lupinglade 6y ago

A separate search and URL field would be nice, it’s just not the same thing. Issues with autocomplete and with copy and paste abound.