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I am not American and don't live there but have American friends. Most of them anecdotally were happy about the op-ed you mention - they probably aren't members
by kshatrea 6y ago
I am not American and don't live there but have American friends. Most of them anecdotally were happy about the op-ed you mention - they probably aren't members of your political tribe. But then they don't subscribe to the NYT anyway.
My point is that the GP is right, this is survival. They tried to be neutral by publishing an op-ed the other side probably liked. Didn't work and therefore it pushes them more into one camp to survive.
Just a guess based on anecdotal information.
- mushbino 6y agoYour American friends were happy about a racist senator saying they should send in the military to kill peaceful protesters? People protesting police violence?
- eeereerews 6y ago> Those excuses are built on a revolting moral equivalence of rioters and looters to peaceful, law-abiding protesters. A majority who seek to protest peacefully shouldn’t be confused with bands of miscreants.
- mushbino 6y agoIs ending centuries of systemic racism and extra-judicial killings at the hands of police worth some insured property damage? Tom Cotton doesn't think so.
- s_y_n_t_a_x 6y agoIt wasn't just property damage, and insurance isn't magic. David Dorn, a black ex-police officer, and 14 other people died due to the unhandled looting. If they would have sent National Guard in to protect storefronts those deaths would have never happened. Those peaceful protesters deserve protection from the looters as well btw.
- watwut 6y agoThe peaceful protesters explicitely don't want that. You may disagree with them, but don't pretend it is for them.
- s_y_n_t_a_x 6y agoI do disagree, and it is for their safety, many of them are getting hurt. I don't care if they want it or not, if they don't, they don't know what's good for them.
- account47t83 6y agoThe problem here is that the protestors are against what they perceive as excessive use of force. Sending in the national guard would escalate the situation further. One of the reasons these protests persist is that they elicit from the police much of the behavior they detest. The protests are self-fueling.
- s_y_n_t_a_x 6y agoLetting them do whatever they want is not a valid choice, no matter how they feel.
- burfog 6y agoIt seems fair. If a group of supposedly "peaceful, law-abiding protesters" is going to make the revolting moral equivalence of corrupt cops to properly behaved cops, they shouldn't complain when they themselves are considered equivalent to the worst among their group.
- wherewillitlead 6y agoIf Taibbi is reporting accurately, that's not what he said, and the NYT even had to issue a correction to clarify that he didn't say that.