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Wow, one character from a region that makes up 60% of the world's population? How radical. Next you'll be telling me that I should be worried because they inclu
by gervu 6y ago
Wow, one character from a region that makes up 60% of the world's population? How radical. Next you'll be telling me that I should be worried because they included a black character and a female character.
If anything, the fact that anyone considers this at all notable should be a sign of just how racially biased casting is in most Western media. The world isn't nearly as white as it looks on your TV.
- softwarejosh 6y agoyeah i literally dont get why the guy brought up race, they should be bringing up shit like video game companies making their black characters white to sell to china. or how about the basic example of blizzards fumbling of the pro hong kong competition winner last year
- pmachinery 6y ago> i literally don't get why the guy brought up race They brought up race because they were replying to a racist conspiracy theory amounting to them running Hollywood and pushing their agenda. Hacker News is one of the few sites - others being Stormfront, Daily Stormer, 8chan - where that kind of shit still flies.
- wolco 6y agoThat opinion is more mainstream then you give it credit. It is backed up recently by the nba losses (2 billion reported) for letting a player give support to Hong kong. China has increased their power. Calling that notion racist discounts all of the different people who make up China's population. China is a country with people of many different colors, backgrounds and religions. Thinking of China as a single color is a little racist.
- pmachinery 6y agoThe NBA losing money and the Chinese government being totalitarian and thin skinned doesn't give free rein to any old racist shit, mate. And they own media companies to push their agenda is flat out, textbook conspiracy theory racism, unless you have more evidence than something completely unrelated.
- orestarod 6y agoHow is criticizing a government racist towards the people it happens to rule over, again? In that logic, criticizing someone is racism towards each and every group that human happens to be part of. That's plain silly.
- pmachinery 6y ago"They own stakes in many american media companies and movie production houses. They use this influence to also change our Media and push pro-Jewish propaganda to the American public." Just criticism of the Israeli government?
- vermilingua 6y agoThe difference there is that people holding those views never claim that the Israeli govt is behind such schemes, they believe it is the International Jewish Shadow Cabal, in which Israel is just a cog.
- pmachinery 6y agoMy point is that such a statement is obviously not referring to a government, but to a people. Is your point seriously that such a statement is racist when about Jewish people, but not racist when about Chinese people?
- mrcodedude 6y agoIt's a racist conspiracy that China is using its financial leverage to influence creative decisions by American-based companies? Why do you think the last few Transformer movies were made?
- pmachinery 6y agoGo on then, explain how the last few Transformer movies were about pushing pro-Chinese propaganda.
- mrcodedude 6y agoThat's not what I said. China is using its position to propagate and censor media both domestically and globally. Not liking the actions of a government doesn't mean you're racist against that population. https://screenrant.com/movies-changed-for-china/ https://screenrant.com/movies-changed-for-china/ > Decisions to cast Tilda Swinton as a 'celtic' incarnation of the Ancient One, typically a Tibetan character, alongside the choice to move Stephen Strange's place of spiritual enlightenment and training from Tibet to Nepal, have created significant controversy online from those who argue that Marvel Studios is whitewashing Strange's backstory to better appeal to the Chinese government. Propaganda doesn't have to look like a commercial from a tourism board.
- pmachinery 6y ago> That's not what I said. Then what you said has nothing to do with what I was commenting on, which was not a claim that Hollywood will do what it has to do to access the Chinese market, but a claim that "they" own stakes in media companies to push pro-Chinese propaganda to the American public. Do you have some examples of that?
- mellow2020 6y agoImagine Germany successfully putting pressure on American movie makers to make Jewish figures in their stories be no longer Jewish, because in it's official German policy that Jews do not exist, they've always been just Germans or something else. You can split hairs and say that's technically not pro-German, but anti-Jewish or whatever, and put "they" in quotes all you want; nobody who cares about the actual individual people and not just sophistry in a vacuum will be moved by it.
- justwalt 6y agoI don’t think it’s fair to call it a racist position. I read it as them saying that the Chinese government is doing these things, not that the Chinese people are doing these things.
- wolco 6y agoThe problem is that black female character has been replaced with a female asian character. The diversity of Americans is not being represented anymore. Trying to sell to the Chinese market has unintended costs.
- throw37543 6y agoAnd these characters are typically paired up with the white male hero. Isn’t this more indicative of the director’s or writer’s fantasies?
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