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It's not all about you, it's about trying to stop the spread of the virus to people who might be more vulnerable than you are.
by TwoHeadedBeast 6y ago
It's not all about you, it's about trying to stop the spread of the virus to people who might be more vulnerable than you are.
- rezeroed 6y agoThey should isolate.
- andybak 6y agoPlease don't continue with this.
- rezeroed 6y agoI didn't mean acquire and wander around infecting people, rather acquire and sit around until it's over. HN obviously interpreted it the other way.
- oneeyedpigeon 6y agoYou said: > [people who might be more vulnerable] should isolate. and now you appear to be saying: > [they should] acquire [the virus] and sit around until it's over That's incredibly bad advice. Now, notice that I'm not going in too hard on you because I'm hoping I've misunderstood what you're saying, but can you clarify it to avoid such confusion, please?
- danpalmer 6y agoIt's thought that 20-80% are asymptomatic, so the plan to acquire and sit around won't work for a very large number of people. Plus they still have a ~0.1-0.5% rate of fatal complications. Wide error bars on these, but all numbers I've seen reported from studies.
- rezeroed 6y ago"I" isn't a very large number of people.
- ithkuil 6y agoI wonder how many people think they are reasonably health and they are unaware of some pre-existing condition that makes them more vulnerable than acceptable. Do you know? Are you willing to gamble with other people's lives based on incomplete information? I know there is a tradeoff, and wrecking the economy and imposing draconian isolation rules can have disastrous consequences on the very same people designed to protect, but your oneliner sounds so confident I wonder whether you've really paused to ponder all the tradeoffs
- cududa 6y agoNobody knows if they have it or not because we don’t have weekly/ daily at home self testing capabilities.. You can pass it without any symptoms
- rezeroed 6y agoIf I go to a hospital and say "jab me" then I can be pretty sure about whether or not i have it.
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- mrob 6y agoAs the Apple/Google system shows, it's possible to do contact tracing without sacrificing privacy. The blame is entirely with the UK government, not anybody who takes the reasonable step of refusing to support unnecessarily harmful technology.
- 9HZZRfNlpR 6y agoThey won't show it on practice, no one can bet it. Read source but what is on the phone. Just take their word? Phones are locked down devices.
- azinman2 6y agoApple / Google already have control of your phone in this regard to begin with. So why is the contact tracing framework such an issue?
- nabnob 6y agoWhy not take measures that don't impact individual rights, like requiring essential jobs to provide their employees with PPE? Where's the accountability for Amazon and Walmart, that continue to allow sick employees to work?