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Why is this one-month-old paper reposted now that the lab leak theory is regaining traction in media outlets? Here is the conclusion of the paper: “[…] we do n

by hubadu 6y ago

Why is this one-month-old paper reposted now that the lab leak theory is regaining traction in media outlets? Here is the conclusion of the paper: “[…] we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible”. Here is the title of Scripps Research Institute press release about their publication: “The COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin, scientists say”. Here are some links to Scripps Research press releases of multi-million dollars deals with chinese labs: https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2017/20170608chempharma.html https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2017/2017... https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2019/20191127-szbl-collaboration.html https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2019/2019... https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/yisheng-biopharma-announces-research-collaboration-with-the-scripps-research-institute-in-developing-new-aids-vaccine-/ https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/yisheng-biopharma-... I am not going to address the china-praising statements and political stances from main researcher twitter account at a time when CCP cover-up was already known worldwide. At the time this paper was published, moderators on social networks deleted any possible discussion on the topic. Copy-paste op's link in reddit search bar and see how many comments were deleted from related discussion.

Aperocky 6y ago
Are you suggesting that .. China is going to engineer a virus and release it in its own population? And then shut the whole country down and pray that it would spread fast and worse elsewhere? Let's just say that back in early February nobody even in China thought that other countries are going to be affected. It is a disaster for the CCP at the time that had popular opinion on the internet swing suddenly and violently against the government. Now, seeing how other countries reacted, that suddenly was not the case anymore. And the CCP have no ability to control other countries action.
- empath75 6y ago
  The theory that it escaped from the lab does not imply that it was engineered -- they could very well have been doing legitimate medical research and made a mistake.
- hubadu 6y ago
  "China is going to engineer a virus..." Yes, that is part of what they were doing at their labs in Wuhan. That is not a conspiracy theory, they have research papers, conferences, press releases and job offers about this very topic. "release it in its own population?" Could you point out where I wrote that they "released it"? I only suspect it was a potential accidental leak from one of their labs in Wuhan. It happened already twice in the past, including SARS lab leak in Beijing lab for which Chinese CDC officials were punished at the time: https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-07/02/content_344755.htm https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-07/02/content... Not to mention researchers who warned us years ago about dangers of engineered bat virus leak scenario in an article from Nature Research Journal.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  > Let's just say that back in early February nobody even in China thought that other countries are going to be affected. This is ridiculous. If you mean Nov. or early Dec., maybe. But by Jan. corona was nation-wide. Amd Wuhan has an international airport. Mid-Jan. documented widely-known pandemic at latest: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/asia/china-wuhan-coronavirus-ap-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/asia/china-wuhan-coronavirus-... Disney world Shanghai was closed Jan. 24 (Disney should have told the US CDC it was that bad in China.) Known to be contagious? early Dec.
  - Aperocky 6y ago
    > Known to be contagious? early Dec. Source?

by hubadu 6y ago

Aperocky 6y ago

Are you suggesting that .. China is going to engineer a virus and release it in its own population? And then shut the whole country down and pray that it would spread fast and worse elsewhere? Let's just say that back in early February nobody even in China thought that other countries are going to be affected. It is a disaster for the CCP at the time that had popular opinion on the internet swing suddenly and violently against the government. Now, seeing how other countries reacted, that suddenly was not the case anymore. And the CCP have no ability to control other countries action.

empath75 6y ago
The theory that it escaped from the lab does not imply that it was engineered -- they could very well have been doing legitimate medical research and made a mistake.
hubadu 6y ago
"China is going to engineer a virus..." Yes, that is part of what they were doing at their labs in Wuhan. That is not a conspiracy theory, they have research papers, conferences, press releases and job offers about this very topic. "release it in its own population?" Could you point out where I wrote that they "released it"? I only suspect it was a potential accidental leak from one of their labs in Wuhan. It happened already twice in the past, including SARS lab leak in Beijing lab for which Chinese CDC officials were punished at the time: https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-07/02/content_344755.htm https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-07/02/content... Not to mention researchers who warned us years ago about dangers of engineered bat virus leak scenario in an article from Nature Research Journal.
redis_mlc 6y ago
> Let's just say that back in early February nobody even in China thought that other countries are going to be affected. This is ridiculous. If you mean Nov. or early Dec., maybe. But by Jan. corona was nation-wide. Amd Wuhan has an international airport. Mid-Jan. documented widely-known pandemic at latest: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/asia/china-wuhan-coronavirus-ap-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/asia/china-wuhan-coronavirus-... Disney world Shanghai was closed Jan. 24 (Disney should have told the US CDC it was that bad in China.) Known to be contagious? early Dec.
- Aperocky 6y ago
  > Known to be contagious? early Dec. Source?