10 ms·
From the comments, there is some confusion about why did i attach my personal email to a company account. That was not the case, let me clarify it. I created my
by shashanktomar 6y ago
From the comments, there is some confusion about why did i attach my personal email to a company account. That was not the case, let me clarify it.
I created my personal account long before Trello was acquired by Atlassian. It did not have any SSO at that point and the login was with username and password. At some point, while working on a side project and to share it with a teammate, I attached a secondary email to my account and created few boards under it. This email was my companies email @company.com
The multiple account login used to work the same way it works for github now. The boards were very clearly labeled under the email/username they were created and clearly had the ownership well defined. As soon as I left the company and my email was disabled, all the boards under that email disappeared from my account. This was expected and kept using my primary email (i always used to login with my username) and completely forgot about an attached secondary email (which anyways is now deactivated). Fast forward 5 years with tons of personal boards under this account, one morning it stopped working without any notification (yes i revised my spam to be sure about it) with all my data gone.
- caseysoftware 6y agoI have separate personal and work Trello accounts. After seeing your report, I checked to make sure they're still separate. They are but each have access to each others' boards. I have yet to figure out how to deactivate that.. but since they're separate users (vs secondary email), I don't think the same will happen. But who knows? Not me. Good luck getting this straightened out.
- alexis_fr 6y agoAtlassian is not the only one who wrecked login by implementing SSO across all their instances. I really don’t recommend using in-app dual logins (for example Gmail’s dual login), and stick to using separate Chrome profiles or Firefox profiles, so that none of the cookies are shared. Even with that, I’ve had surprises with my mobile phone number being the only shared information between two Google Ads accounts, and Google mixing my data, but avoiding sharing cookies is really important. That is also what I recommend my employees. « You can use Facebook or Youtube at work, but not in the same Chrome profile. »
- shock 6y ago> separate Chrome profiles or Firefox profiles, so that none of the cookies are shared. You don't need separate Firefox profiles for that, you can use Firefox containers.
- diggan 6y agoTrue, but by using profiles you don't need any extra extensions, it comes built-in in both Chrome and Firefox, you can simply start it with providing the `--profile <path>` flag. Correct me if I'm wrong, but some IT environments also lock down installing extensions from addons.mozilla.org, so the profiles tip would be applicable to more people.
- Kaze404 6y agoFirefox Containers are a native feature now.
- diggan 6y agoI remember it used to be a native feature but I'm fairly certain they split it out into a separate addon after a while. Or did they move it back into core?
- the8472 6y agoThe basic functionality is in the core. (about:preferences -> search for "container"). But for better UI there is an extension.
- WorldMaker 6y agoPartly because Mozilla is continuing to iterate/experiment on the container UI and leaving that to extensions is a way to keep that laboratory open. They seem worried the UI may be too confusing if it was on by default for a lot of users. (Like the era decades ago when -ProfileManager was on-by-default in some installs.) Mozilla even has two official extensions, trying to explore the space of ease of use/user expectations. In addition to the main multi-container extension they offer Facebook Container which is an extension designed to be more entry level but for folks worried about privacy. (It does what it says on a tin, creates only one additional container, names it Facebook, and automatically moves all Facebook tabs and pretty much only Facebook tabs into it.)
- taneq 6y agoWow, their response is atrocious. It's basically just "Yes, that's right, there was a second email address attached to your account and the owner of the domain for that email set up SSO, so they now own your account. Try asking them nicely for it." I started disentangling myself from Atlassian products a few years ago but I was still using Trello. Clearly that's going to have to stop.
- bayindirh 6y agoInstead, I have a strict separation rule for these kind of services. No work stuff is hosted in my personal accounts, and work accounts are always created with a separate e-mail. I can just remove myself from everything work related without touching anything personal. While I was working with a small group, we had our own domain and e-mail addresses as a perk. My relationship went sour with the lead of the project and, as a power move, she disabled my e-mail and other accounts related to that group, guessing that a lot of stuff is connected to this e-mail (since the domain was prestigious in that circles) and doing so will hurt me a lot. Since only things related to the group/work was on that e-mail, literally nothing happened. I just broke off cleanly from the group and, a move designed to hurt me brought bliss to the parting process.
- 0x00000000 6y agoMeanwhile on Facebook you cannot create a page for a business(say you work in the marketing department) without linking your PERSONAL account to it. Absolutely fucking insane.
- pc86 6y agoThat's a completely different thing. One, Facebook is based around the concept of a real person being behind just about everything - when you administer a group, you can see which person posted the individual company/page posts. Two, nothing can happen to your personal account based on the actions of the company page or other people associated with it.
- 6y ago
- TLightful 6y agoWow. Bye bye, Atlassian. Moving immediately.
- ernsheong 6y agoI created a Trello alternative, check it out at https://www.kanrails.com https://www.kanrails.com Would love to get feedback!
- Assisting 6y agoFirst piece of feedback, don't suggest somebody use a work email and company name on a Trello alternative right after this debacle happened.
- stronglikedan 6y agoI'd say don't require it, and it's not required in this case. In the context of the tool, it does make sense to suggest it.
- ernsheong 6y agoThanks for the feedback. I will consider removing it. KanRails wants to be a B2B tool, not another Trello. It was just a recommendation.
- delfinom 6y agoFrom the signup page >Work email is recommended. Yea...so how does this solve OP's problem. Also desperation for sales leads eh?
- ernsheong 6y agoThanks for the comment. You can put in your personal email and it would work just fine.
- lowwave 6y agotake a look at https://wekan.github.io https://wekan.github.io Nice open source self hosting alternative.
- lifty 6y agoThere is no shortage of atrocious examples, like this one, that prove that people need to take digital sovereignty seriously. Our data and our interactions should not be intermediated by some digital feudalistic lord, without any recourse when something goes wrong.
- dotancohen 6y agoSerious question as someone who does not use any "cloud" services: Did you not have a backup of your data in Trello? Orthogonal to the issue of account ownership, on which I stand firmly in your favour, did you not have a backup of the data? What would happen if Trello went bust, or somehow otherwise lost your data?
- dotancohen 6y agoI would love to know why this was downvoted. I have all my data backed up. I won't use a device or service that does not allow me to back it up.