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What data are basing the opinions of "most people" and "average consumers" on?

by daten 16y ago

jshen 16y ago
consumer sales?
- recoiledsnake 16y ago
  You mean around 17% to 20% ? That's 'most people' and the 'average consumer'?
  - jshen 16y ago
    can you link to the numbers
- ShaunK 16y ago
  Well then HP, Dell and Acer make the most beautiful laptops in the world.
  - jshen 16y ago
    Are you including sales to businesses in those numbers?
    - ShaunK 16y ago
      Yes probably. And in reality if you look at laptops > $1k it's not even close, Apple has 90% of that market. What that says to me though is that most people care more about cost than aesthetics. The point being that aesthetics isn't really the trump card that a lot of people think it is.
      - jshen 16y ago
        I think we have to bucket buyers into different groups. For one large group I think it is the dominant factor. I think the word "aesthetics" maybe be a bit of a misnomer. It's more than just physical appearance. There's a clean elegance to almost all aspects of the device including the software. The tablets will be a good test, so far the android tablets aren't a lot cheaper than the ipad. We'll see how they do.
jasonwocky 16y ago
Does it matter? Are you disputing the claim? Do you think that people care more about the ability to bounce their laptop off of concrete than aesthetics?
- tomjen3 16y ago
  Depends on which group you look into. The social level who can afford to buy apple? Most likely not that many. Those who can't afford to change the laptop if it breaks (or who would find this to be a major expense)? Yeah, I can believe that.
  - jodrellblank 16y ago
    The social level who can afford to buy apple? A Toughbook costs more than a comparable MBP.
    - moe 16y ago
      And for the price of a MBP you can buy 2-3 "normal" laptops. I.e. the low-end budget stuff that ain't pretty, may have a whiny fan, but still gets the job done.
      - moe 16y ago
        Why did that get downvoted? For reference, here's a Lenovo G550 for $389: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146839 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146... The MBP starts at $1199.
    - tomjen3 16y ago
      And insurance costs more than not having it, but the poorer you are, the more you need it. So yeah, it is maybe more expensive but I can totally see why you would want that.
      - jodrellblank 16y ago

What data are basing the opinions of "most people" and "average consumers" on?

by daten 16y ago

What data are basing the opinions of "most people" and "average consumers" on?

jshen 16y ago

consumer sales?

recoiledsnake 16y ago
You mean around 17% to 20% ? That's 'most people' and the 'average consumer'?
- jshen 16y ago
  can you link to the numbers
ShaunK 16y ago
Well then HP, Dell and Acer make the most beautiful laptops in the world.
- jshen 16y ago
  Are you including sales to businesses in those numbers?
  - ShaunK 16y ago
    Yes probably. And in reality if you look at laptops > $1k it's not even close, Apple has 90% of that market. What that says to me though is that most people care more about cost than aesthetics. The point being that aesthetics isn't really the trump card that a lot of people think it is.
    - jshen 16y ago
      I think we have to bucket buyers into different groups. For one large group I think it is the dominant factor. I think the word "aesthetics" maybe be a bit of a misnomer. It's more than just physical appearance. There's a clean elegance to almost all aspects of the device including the software. The tablets will be a good test, so far the android tablets aren't a lot cheaper than the ipad. We'll see how they do.

jasonwocky 16y ago

Does it matter? Are you disputing the claim? Do you think that people care more about the ability to bounce their laptop off of concrete than aesthetics?

tomjen3 16y ago
Depends on which group you look into. The social level who can afford to buy apple? Most likely not that many. Those who can't afford to change the laptop if it breaks (or who would find this to be a major expense)? Yeah, I can believe that.
- jodrellblank 16y ago
  The social level who can afford to buy apple? A Toughbook costs more than a comparable MBP.
  - moe 16y ago
    And for the price of a MBP you can buy 2-3 "normal" laptops. I.e. the low-end budget stuff that ain't pretty, may have a whiny fan, but still gets the job done.
    - moe 16y ago
      Why did that get downvoted? For reference, here's a Lenovo G550 for $389: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146839 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146... The MBP starts at $1199.
  - tomjen3 16y ago
    And insurance costs more than not having it, but the poorer you are, the more you need it. So yeah, it is maybe more expensive but I can totally see why you would want that.
    - jodrellblank 16y ago