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No, at most it sounds like retaliation. They did not follow health guidelines until the person complained and then they still don't follow them but instead cla
by pergadad 6y ago
No, at most it sounds like retaliation.
They did not follow health guidelines until the person complained and then they still don't follow them but instead claim to follow them. Why just claim? After the 14 day phase the guidelines don't suggest any quarantines unless people show symptoms.
- rumanator 6y ago> No, at most it sounds like retaliation. Full paid leave is not what most people in the US would call retaliation, particularly in the case of a warehouse worker.
- throwaway2048 6y agoThe retaliation part is where they got fired.
- jaywalk 6y agoHe got fired for showing up to work when he was told to stay home.
- sudosysgen 6y agoSo what's your solution then, companies can just tell employees to stay home for no valid when they try to plan a strike or organize, and then fire them if they still try to do so?
- jaywalk 6y agoIt's unclear whether there was "no valid reason" or not in this case. But if they're paying the employee to stay home (like Amazon was in this case) it's hard for me to see a huge problem.
- sudosysgen 6y agoThe issue is that this prevents him from organizing strikes effectively. That is very problematic.
- root_axis 6y agoTo me, this seems like retaliation, but he offered Amazon plausible deniability by not complying with job instructions. If you're told to work from home but you refuse, it seems within reason that you might be let go.
- sudosysgen 6y agoI don't know that he can work from home, as a fulfillment center employee. It seems to me that Amazon was just trying to find a way to keep him away from other workers in order to collapse strike efforts. And I don't know that it's reasonable for a company to bar you from the office if you're trying to get the company unionized.
- CamperBob2 6y agoHow about not trying to organize a strike in the middle of a national emergency? Is that an option?
- throwaway2048 6y agoYou realize why he wanted to organize a strike right? Amazon knew that one of his co-workers was infected, and said and did nothing.
- CamperBob2 6y agoHosing everybody -- your company, your coworkers, your customers, yourself -- with a strike isn't the way to address that issue. We have these things called "courts" that are well-suited to addressing complaints like this one.
- lonelappde 6y agoAnd if we was told to stay home because to prevent unionizing, that's retaliation. Intent matters in law.
- rumanator 6y ago> And if we was told to stay home because to prevent unionizing, But the worker was placed on a 15 day paid leave to self quarantine because he stated he had direct contact with someone infected with covid19. And then he not only broke his quarantine but also made it his point to go to work, potentially risking his colleagues. Even if you argue that he did't carried covid19, that action is not justifiable, neither safety-wise nor legaly-wise.
- throwaway2048 6y agoover and over in this thread you have been repeatedly told that amazon waited well over 2 weeks to "quarantine" him (and only him, nobody else that was exposed) despite knowing he was exposed (and also did not tell him). Yet in every post you make, you continue to misrepresent the situation. You are being hugely dishonest