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> Why must we always have a foreign enemy? Be it soviets, muslims, mexicans or now China. I don't know? Why must "we"? Can't China just get it's shit in order?

> Why must we always have a foreign enemy? Be it soviets, muslims, mexicans or now China. I don't know? Why must "we"? Can't China just get it's shit in order? Is it too much to ask for?

yibg 7y ago
"we" is the generic we, as in whoever is reading this. China is no different, they've been pointing at external influences; typically the US as the bad guys for a long time. But this response is the kind of thing I'm talking about. I'm sure you have legitimate reasons to have a negative view of China, but discussions just devolve into emotionally charged rhetoric that doesn't go anywhere. How am I supposed to respond to this in a constructive way?
- ailideex 7y ago
  Most problems China has with other entities and other entities have with China can be solved by the communist party of china just basically stopping their shit. I think it is okay to get a bit emotional if the whole world economy is plunged into the gutter because Xi Jinping conducts himself like insolent prissy spoilt child in need of a good talking to by an adult. And maybe if his parents did their job the whole world would not be in this state now. So yes, I am fucking emotional about this. Billions of people have to suffer because of Xi Jinping and his party.
kjaftaedi 7y ago
This isn't a China problem. Nearly all government leaders' first reaction is try to downplay disasters.. after all they are politicians, not science experts. Did you not watch Chernobyl? It's literally the same plot. Even in this particular case, the Chinese govt. wasn't the only one trying to downplay this. The US government did the exact same thing even after China had already come to its senses.
- ailideex 7y ago
  > Nearly all government leaders' first reaction is try to downplay disasters.. after all they are politicians, not science experts. There is a difference between the capacity of US and EU to suppress information and the capacity of authoritarian Chinese State to do this. The media in US and EU does not take direction from the Government. > The US government did the exact same thing even after China had already come to its senses. Did the US govt allow wet markets with live wild animals to operate in China for the political gain of Xi Jinping and China? Did the US govt downplaying this change the reporting of the media? Did the US order samples destroyed and ordered laboratories to not release information? No? Stop running cover for Xi Jinping.
  - dang 7y ago
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> Why must we always have a foreign enemy? Be it soviets, muslims, mexicans or now China. I don't know? Why must "we"? Can't China just get it's shit in order? Is it too much to ask for?

yibg 7y ago

"we" is the generic we, as in whoever is reading this. China is no different, they've been pointing at external influences; typically the US as the bad guys for a long time. But this response is the kind of thing I'm talking about. I'm sure you have legitimate reasons to have a negative view of China, but discussions just devolve into emotionally charged rhetoric that doesn't go anywhere. How am I supposed to respond to this in a constructive way?

ailideex 7y ago
Most problems China has with other entities and other entities have with China can be solved by the communist party of china just basically stopping their shit. I think it is okay to get a bit emotional if the whole world economy is plunged into the gutter because Xi Jinping conducts himself like insolent prissy spoilt child in need of a good talking to by an adult. And maybe if his parents did their job the whole world would not be in this state now. So yes, I am fucking emotional about this. Billions of people have to suffer because of Xi Jinping and his party.

kjaftaedi 7y ago

This isn't a China problem. Nearly all government leaders' first reaction is try to downplay disasters.. after all they are politicians, not science experts. Did you not watch Chernobyl? It's literally the same plot. Even in this particular case, the Chinese govt. wasn't the only one trying to downplay this. The US government did the exact same thing even after China had already come to its senses.

ailideex 7y ago
> Nearly all government leaders' first reaction is try to downplay disasters.. after all they are politicians, not science experts. There is a difference between the capacity of US and EU to suppress information and the capacity of authoritarian Chinese State to do this. The media in US and EU does not take direction from the Government. > The US government did the exact same thing even after China had already come to its senses. Did the US govt allow wet markets with live wild animals to operate in China for the political gain of Xi Jinping and China? Did the US govt downplaying this change the reporting of the media? Did the US order samples destroyed and ordered laboratories to not release information? No? Stop running cover for Xi Jinping.
- dang 7y ago
  We've banned this account for abusing HN with flamewar comments. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html