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A friend of mine heard his personal attorney speak at a law school class. Even his attorney thought Anthony was a “jackass” for stealing the IP; his defense fel
by tozeur 7y ago
A friend of mine heard his personal attorney speak at a law school class. Even his attorney thought Anthony was a “jackass” for stealing the IP; his defense fell on him being an engineer who, at the end of the day, just wanted to build cool shit and wasn’t malicious.
- swiley 7y agoI feel like this stuff should be public anyway, we’ve already had one person die over a company using “IP” to keep secrets. Maybe what he did was wrong but I don’t like calling him a “jackass.”
- nathanvanfleet 7y agoJust a regular guy with assets somewhere between 50 and 100 million dollars.
- jgalt212 7y agowell, multiples of that before this settlement was announced.
- loeg 7y agoNo, those are pre-settlement. He's now insolvent. The article touches on this at the end.
- ethanwillis 7y agoNot if he bought a mansion in Florida early on.
- Buge 7y agoThat's an asset, right? So it would be part of the $50-100M
- yebyen 7y agoNot in Florida, https://www.alperlaw.com/florida-asset-protection/ https://www.alperlaw.com/florida-asset-protection/
- toomuchtodo 7y agoPrimary residence in Florida is shielded from bankruptcy and creditors. Also retirement accounts (both IRAs and 401ks). Lease your expensive ride and you’re mostly judgement proof.
- caf 7y agoCan you shield additional liquid assets by installing solid gold toilets in your Florida mansion?
- jjeaff 7y agoProbably, it is not uncommon for people to dump large sums of money into renovations to their property before a bankruptcy. Although I would imagine if it was very egregious, like $1m toilets when essentially no one else has anything reasonably close to that, that a judge would probably strike that down and require you to liquidate it.
- mwerty 7y agoWhat happens if you sell it, say, a year after filing for bankruptcy? Can you keep the cash?
- toomuchtodo 7y agoNo. There is some nuance, but the proceeds must be used in a reasonable amount of time to purchase another protected primary residence. http://www.gibblaw.com/are-the-proceeds-from-sale-of-homestead-property-protected-from-judgment-creditors/ http://www.gibblaw.com/are-the-proceeds-from-sale-of-homeste...
- ndesaulniers 7y ago
- edoceo 7y agoSoon be underwater on that too :/
- jgalt212 7y agoYou do realize he has very strong incentives to understate his net worth now.
- loeg 7y agoSo what? Bankruptcy courts weren't born yesterday; I'm sure they're familiar with that problem. And Google has reasonably strong incentives to collect as much of that $180M as they can, too.
- jgalt212 7y agoeverything you said is true, but it's much easier to hide assets than to hide debts.
- loeg 7y agoBetween -79 and -129 million dollars, really.
- dang 7y agoPlease don't post unsubstantive comments here, regardless of how many millions someone has or you feel they have. This sort of comment is an internet trope that leads nowhere interesting. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- duxup 7y agoMaybe not malicious but what he walked away with wasn't just Google's IP, I'm sure plenty of people working for / with him worked on that IP too... There is a certain amount of disregard for other people who want to make cool stuff too IMO.
- Nelson69 7y agoHe's cashed in on this theft to the tune of "$50m-$100m" what would it take to constitute mallace? Sure, he's not building war weapons or anything like that, but he stole the IP and he made an F* ton of money from it, specifically selling it to competitors. That seems like about the only malicious thing you could do with that IP, if you ask me. Being not malicious would be if it did that for free. What are the odds that he ends up living kind of normal after this? Like living in the suburbs in a 2500sqft house and commuting to some job that pays $130k? I think close to nil.
- zimpenfish 7y ago> commuting to some job That'd be some interview. "Could you tell us about a time when you had to resolve a difficult issue? Say when you nicked IP from Google and had to pay $179M as restitution? And could you then explain why we should trust you within a hundred miles of our IP?"
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- jacquesm 7y agoHis attorney should STFU about cases in progress to people who are not in any way involved in the suit. Levandowski may be a jackass but that lawyer is not much better.
- Mvandenbergh 7y agoNote that this is Levandowski's defence. "I did copy those files but only because I love tech, I would never deliberately steal IP, I'm really sorry about all this". What else could he do, he clearly copied the files so claiming he didn't wasn't going to work. So his lawyer is just maintaining the same position that he did in court, otherwise this would be outrageous.
- reallydontask 7y agoIf he did say anything like that I'd agree with you but this is most likely distorted through retelling.