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the only thing I miss are the comments

by dickeytk 7y ago

westurner 7y ago
JSON5 supports comments: https://json5.org/ https://json5.org/
- throwaway894345 7y ago
  But who supports json5?
  - hombre_fatal 7y ago
    You can use json5 for comments and compile it to json.
    - CameronNemo 7y ago
      You can use (yaml, hjson, jsonnet) for the same purpose. What sets json 5 apart?
      - Supermancho 7y ago
        YAML, hjson and jsonnet do not validate existing json blobs. You can "use" ROT13 for the same purpose, but it's incidental in what you are trying to do. I would plead that everyone stop using YAML. It's terrible at everything. jsonnet is a template language for a serialization format. Who would choose that nightmare? Ecmascript isn't big on extending the language orthogonally, so hjson is eventually going to be superceded by a ES*. This is a niche concern that has an optimal path. Go with a validation schema designed for applying to a serialization format, which has widespread library support.
        CameronNemo 7y ago
        >YAML ... do not validate existing json blobs YAML 1.2 is a strict superset of JSON. What do you mean by "validate" here? >I would plead that everyone stop using YAML. It's terrible at everything. Fair enough. >jsonnet is a template language for a serialization format. Who would choose that nightmare? People who are tired of Jinja2 and YAML but don't want to jump to a general purpose programming language? >widespread library support JSON5 is implemented in Javascript, Go, and C#. Not sure how "widespread" that is. Rust, C, Python, Lua, Java, and Haskell are missing out on the fun.
        westurner 7y ago
        When I searched for "JSON5 [language]", I found JSON5 implementations in/for Rust, C, Python, Java, and Haskell on the first page of search results. I like YAML, but some of the syntax conveniences are gotchas: 'no' must be quoted, for example.
kevinoid 7y ago
Then you may be happy to learn that OpenAPI documents can be written in YAML (since OpenAPI 2.0).
dvh 7y ago
If there were comments, people would start putting data in comments.
- dickeytk 7y ago
  but for that you'd have to use a custom parser. If you use a custom parser you could put data in comments today anyways. I don't understand that argument.
tasogare 7y ago
Attributes are also super nice to extend existing data. Doing so in JSON is a nightmare.

the only thing I miss are the comments

westurner 7y ago

JSON5 supports comments: https://json5.org/ https://json5.org/

throwaway894345 7y ago
But who supports json5?
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  You can use json5 for comments and compile it to json.
  - CameronNemo 7y ago
    You can use (yaml, hjson, jsonnet) for the same purpose. What sets json 5 apart?
    - Supermancho 7y ago
      YAML, hjson and jsonnet do not validate existing json blobs. You can "use" ROT13 for the same purpose, but it's incidental in what you are trying to do. I would plead that everyone stop using YAML. It's terrible at everything. jsonnet is a template language for a serialization format. Who would choose that nightmare? Ecmascript isn't big on extending the language orthogonally, so hjson is eventually going to be superceded by a ES*. This is a niche concern that has an optimal path. Go with a validation schema designed for applying to a serialization format, which has widespread library support.
      - CameronNemo 7y ago
        >YAML ... do not validate existing json blobs YAML 1.2 is a strict superset of JSON. What do you mean by "validate" here? >I would plead that everyone stop using YAML. It's terrible at everything. Fair enough. >jsonnet is a template language for a serialization format. Who would choose that nightmare? People who are tired of Jinja2 and YAML but don't want to jump to a general purpose programming language? >widespread library support JSON5 is implemented in Javascript, Go, and C#. Not sure how "widespread" that is. Rust, C, Python, Lua, Java, and Haskell are missing out on the fun.
        westurner 7y ago
        When I searched for "JSON5 [language]", I found JSON5 implementations in/for Rust, C, Python, Java, and Haskell on the first page of search results. I like YAML, but some of the syntax conveniences are gotchas: 'no' must be quoted, for example.

kevinoid 7y ago

Then you may be happy to learn that OpenAPI documents can be written in YAML (since OpenAPI 2.0).

dvh 7y ago

If there were comments, people would start putting data in comments.

dickeytk 7y ago
but for that you'd have to use a custom parser. If you use a custom parser you could put data in comments today anyways. I don't understand that argument.

tasogare 7y ago

Attributes are also super nice to extend existing data. Doing so in JSON is a nightmare.